Some interesting Virol Aerosol info
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Do we need a microscope?
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I used to eat Virol as a kid in 70's, seem to remember it being like runny toffee.
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Thanks for posting this the baker.
Sort of what i already knew but i like the way he presented this in a easy to understand format. The aerosol effect is what ive been bangin on about to people from day 1 as it seems evident it just isn't spreading like Sars-cov1 and i think he's highlighted the fundamental difference which is something i feel our government should be emphasising. It's not just a sneeze not just 2metres and you're ok.
Aerosol covid19 hanging in the air for up to 3hours. I don't like that.
We should be all wearing masks in public areas such as supermarkets!!!!
THis bloke does quite a few interesting talks.
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so what do you think a aerosol is ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerosol
An aerosol (abbreviation of "aero-solution") is a suspension of fine solid particles or liquid droplets in air
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Who says?? Did you listen to the video?
How do patients people in hospitals relatively isolated fall ill, alot of reports of people catching it after flights i know 3 who have. I strongly believe as he discussed in his video the difference between this and covid1 is the viral loading in the upper airways in asymptomatic people, perfect silent proxy to keep spreading.
https://www.livescience.com/covid19-coronavirus-transmission-through-speech.html
There is a difference between aerosol spread (fine mist that hangs in the air and spreads further in the air, like the way a cold virus spreads) and droplet spread, which are bigger, don't spread so far in the air, but have a much closer radius - hence the 2m social distance concept.
If Corona spread by aerosol, like a cold, then we would be in much deeper shiit.
they seem a bit woolly on this at the moment, but general concensus does seem to point to infections arent being caused by aesosol
the science is very clear (not): 'maybe it can, maybe it cant....we dont really know, we think probably not'
"The weight of the evidence suggests that the new coronavirus can exist as an aerosol — a physics term meaning a liquid or solid (the virus) suspended in a gas (like air) — only under very limited conditions, and that this transmission route is not driving the pandemic. But “limited” conditions does not mean “no” conditions, underlining the need for health care workers to have high levels of personal protection, especially when doing procedures such as intubation that have the greatest chance of creating coronavirus aerosols. “I think the answer will be, aerosolization occurs rarely but not never,” said microbiologist and physician Stanley Perlman of the University of Iowa. “You have to distinguish between what’s possible and what’s actually happening.”
Whilst there may be random studies and individual university professor's opinion, and Youtube videos, if you look at the general consensus around the world, the advice on the 1.5 or 2m or 6ft social distancing instruction from all the different governments, is based on the virus spreading by droplet and not aerosol.
It has a similar infection rate to the common cold and a cough from one reaching others can spread it. Sneeze even further. Virus are rather small so if the normal water vapour we exhale every time we breath can spread a cold ................. Then 3 days of life on plastic and metal.
The common cold can be caused by several viruses - main one is probably the coronavirus version in winter.
https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/cold-guide/common_cold_causes
But none of that is relevant to the aerosol/ droplet spread issue.
This virus, the one mentioned in the video and subject of this thread, does not spread by aerosol.
But yes you are correct in that once a droplet hits a surface, they can linger on that surface for extended periods of time.
