Southport murderer pleads guilty

MNW67 said:
The point is that he is not the Muslim, asylum seeking, member of ISIS that many of the rioters were whipped up into believing.
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He is and would continue to terrorise people ffs. He was found with an al-Qaeda training manual, nothing like a Haynes manual (or other manuals available from all high street stores. )
An al-Qaeda manual, do you know what that represents? It is a terrorist related document. Not one that a 'christian born' person should be in the posession of, ever unless he/she is studying counterterrorism and then should be declared formally.

Lets see how you react if he mamed or killed your family members etc, some people on here have a strange detachment to issues. I guess it hasn't affected you directly so what's the problem...
 
festive said:
Lets see how you react if he mamed or killed your family members etc, some people on here have a strange detachment to issues. I guess it hasn't affected you directly so what's the problem...
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Why would labelling him a terrorist make me feel any better?
 
festive said:
He is and would continue to terrorise people ffs. He was found with an al-Qaeda training manual, nothing like a Haynes manual (or other manuals available from all high street stores. )
An al-Qaeda manual, do you know what that represents? It is a terrorist related document. Not one that a 'christian born' person should be in the posession of, ever unless he/she is studying counterterrorism and then should be declared formally.

Lets see how you react if he mamed or killed your family members etc, some people on here have a strange detachment to issues. I guess it hasn't affected you directly so what's the problem...
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Nobody said he isn't evil.
 
festive said:
He was found with an al-Qaeda training manual, nothing like a Haynes manual (or other manuals available from all high street stores. )
An al-Qaeda manual, do you know what that represents? It is a terrorist related document. Not one that a 'christian born' person should be in the posession of, ever unless he/she is studying counterterrorism and then should be declared formally.
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TBH, I've lost track of what you are arguing. From everything that has been investigated, this man is simply evil or crazy or a freak or all those things. He spent his time studying murder and genocide and extreme violence. In America there are lots of mass school shootings. That is what this is more akin to. Sometimes they later find the kids had got hold of terrorism manuals on how to carry out such atrocities. But those are never classed as terrorist offences. You sometimes get these extremely troubled and dangerous young people who commit these horrendous crimes for no reason. Why does that sound so impossible to you? Stop obsessing over the Al Qaeda manual. You are losing all reason.
 
festive said:
Lets see how you react if he mamed or killed your family members etc, some people on here have a strange detachment to issues. I guess it hasn't affected you directly so what's the problem...
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That is such a strange thing to write. I was incredibly upset by the murders. What have I written which makes you think I wasn't? Because I challenge those who ignorantly call it terrorism? I was also deeply upset that the murders were used to stir up riots. And that is something I want to avoid happening again.
 
MNW67 said:
TBH, I've lost track of what you are arguing. From everything that has been investigated, this man is simply evil or crazy or a freak or all those things. He spent his time studying murder and genocide and extreme violence. In America there are lots of mass school shootings. That is what this is more akin to. Sometimes they later find the kids had got hold of terrorism manuals on how to carry out such atrocities. But those are never classed as terrorist offences. You sometimes get these extremely troubled and dangerous young people who commit these horrendous crimes for no reason. Why does that sound so impossible to you? Stop obsessing over the Al Qaeda manual. You are losing all reason.
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Stop obsessing over people inciting racial or religion hate, we are not, we are concerned people are being radicalised in ways we aren't able to stop, these people are terrorising and killing, drop your defenses, we all want to stop this, but we dont want people jumping in the way saying 'hey he was a christian..; a pointless comment.
 
festive said:
Stop obsessing over people inciting racial or religion hate, we are not, we are concerned people are being radicalised in ways we aren't able to stop, these people are terrorising and killing, drop your defenses, we all want to stop this, but we dont want people jumping in the way saying 'hey he was a christian..; a pointless comment.
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But he wasn't radicalised!
 
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