Regrettable most DIYers, really don't understand that the in majority of electrical installation, repair and replacements, they are generally out of their depth and do not have the skill or knowledge to complete these tasks successfully or safely.
Yes - but, as I said, if it is your view that any DIYer who does not understand the meaning of (yet alone be able to measure and interpret) things like R1+R2 and Zs does not have adequate skill and knowledge to undertake any electrical DIY work, then forums like this might as well be closed down and replaced with a campaign to get DIY electrical work banned. Whilst I accept that that is a view which some hold, I don't think it is the view of the majority, particularly of those who choose to participate in a forum like this and try to give at least some assistance and advice (other than 'do not do it' or 'get an electrician') to DIYers.
Fair enough. However, as BAS often says, it's not usually a case of 'cannot' as 'will not' (most people could probably acquire the understanding and means of doing any of these things if they put their minds to it) - if you live in the same world as me, you presumably acknowledge the fact that the great majority of 'occasional electrical DIYers' (such as most of those we see in this forum) will not do any testing (other than 'functional testing'!). I agree that's far from ideal, but, as I've said, if one feels that it is not acceptable for DIY electrical work to be done on that basis, then one should, IMO, really refrain from giving any advice in a forum like this, and should campaign for the outlawing of DIY electrical work.
That is accepted, and is the usual 'general discussion' we have. However, the suggestion/implication in this thread seems to have been that someone who cannot understand, measure and interpret, say, R1+R2 and Zs, they do not have 'the skill and knowledge' to undertake any electrical DIY work. Whilst I can obviously understand why some people say that, and respect their right to have that view, as I have said it is effectively saying that virtually no 'occasional electrical DIY' should ever be done. Is that your view?
That's an extreme case, and analogous to some of the more general discussion that we usually have. There are some comparably extreme electrical examples in which I imagine we would all agree that there is nothing we can/should say other than "don't do it"/"get an electrician". In either the medical or electrical case, the real difficulty arises if it is clear that the questioner is hell-bent on doing something crazy if they don't get answers they regard as 'helpful'. In that situation, saying "don't do it" or "get an electrician/doctor" may do something for the conscience of the responder, but doesn't help the questioner. It's a real dilemma.
All true. That sounds like a call for electric (and maybe other) 'DIY' to be 'banned' - is that what you think should happen?
IIRC, I don't think that an 'ordinary' member of the public can even do that, at least in some States - but I think that they can go on a (one-day) course in 'how to fit/change plugs', and get some sort of certificate to then allow them to do that one electrical thing!
... and that, of course, assumes that there are some measurable 'positive effects' to be cancelled out!
I can well believe that. Do they perhaps have multi-plug-in adaptors, too?
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