The reality of the state our military defence

[fixitflav]

Actually the point that you made was that he said he wasn’t going to invade Ukraine.

Yes, so you can't believe him. I made a more general point, that was one example.

However his military convoys were a bit obvious that he was going to

He said he wouldn't, and you're the one who wants to accept his word.

We haven’t seen any convoys or military build up towards a NATO country.

Irrelevant. Nobody's saying he's going to do it tomorrow. He'd start his build-up a while before he plans to invade.

He will have learned from Ukraine that taking on a NATO country would be unwise.

Hopefully, but wisdom isn't his strong suit

 

[Highway Man]

Yes, so you can't believe him. I made a more general point, that was one example.

He said he wouldn't, and you're the one who wants to accept his word.

Irrelevant. Nobody's saying he's going to do it tomorrow. He'd start his build-up a while before he plans to invade.

Hopefully, but wisdom isn't his strong suit

I didn’t say I believe him I said he would be foolish now to try to invade a NATO country. I have no doubt in the future within the next 10 years he will try it. That is why it is so important for NATO to put a big proportion of our gdp into military spending to prevent him from trying.

 

[fixitflav]

I have no doubt in the future within the next 10 years he will try it.

Not sure about no doubt, it's not inevitable, but apart from that, agreed.

That is why it is so important for NATO to put a big proportion of our gdp into military spending to prevent him from trying.

Definitely, especially if America jumps ship

 

[gas112]

well the EU are saying why do they with a population of 450 million need the US with a population of 350 million to defend its self against Russia with a population of only 150 million

 

[denso13]

Exactly. Tell orangina to do one and take our own defence seriously.

 

[Notch7]

well the EU are saying why do they with a population of 450 million need the US with a population of 350 million to defend its self against Russia with a population of only 150 million

the USA has chosen to be the worlds global military power for the last 5 decades

its given USA the ability to have massive global influence and made the dollar the worlds reserve currency


poor gas112 only thinks in simplistic terms........perhaps thats the extent of his capacity

 

[Highway Man]

Exactly. Tell orangina to do one and take our own defence seriously.

You do have a point.

 

[Notch7]

I didn’t say I believe him I said he would be foolish now to try to invade a NATO country. I have no doubt in the future within the next 10 years he will try it. That is why it is so important for NATO to put a big proportion of our gdp into military spending to prevent him from trying.

So you support a big proportion of our GDP into military spending to ensure we can defend ourselves

but you criticise the UK for giving money to Ukraine to defend itself against Russia invading a part of our continent.........which damages our security

you are contradicting yourself

 

[gas112]

the USA has chosen to be the worlds global military power for the last 5 decades

its given USA the ability to have massive global influence and made the dollar the worlds reserve currency


poor gas112 only thinks in simplistic terms........perhaps thats the extent of his capacity

Poor old notch struggling to see its his beloved EU the suggestion has come from . He is that simple in the mind he struggles to read the written word

 

[Highway Man]

So you support a big proportion of our GDP into military spending to ensure we can defend ourselves

but you criticise the UK for giving money to Ukraine to defend itself against Russia invading a part of our continent.........which damages our security

you are contradicting yourself

The money we are giving to Ukraine could well be better spent on our own defences. Ukraine is not part of NATO.

 

[fixitflav]

the USA has chosen to be the worlds global military power for the last 5 decades

its given USA the ability to have massive global influence and made the dollar the worlds reserve currenc

They wanted it that way because it benefited the USA, and now complain that other countries are free-riding on them.

 

[fillyboy]

Poor old notch struggling to see its his beloved EU the suggestion has come from . He is that simple in the mind he struggles to read the written word

Is this the EU that wants the US to defend them FOC from their enemy (Russia) but they chose to buy gas from Russia rather than the US.

Extraordinary.

 

[denso13]

Is this the EU that wants the US to defend them FOC from their enemy (Russia)

No, they don't want that.

 

[Highway Man]

Exactly. Tell orangina to do one and take our own defence seriously.

The U.S is a better Ally than an enemy.

 

[denso13]

Not anymore.