Then and Now, What We Have Lost.

[carmanmemoranda]

And if you had a brain you would realise there was nothing right wing or conservative about the last Tory government. Part of the reason they were voted out.

No matter how many times you repeat that, it just isn't true.

 

[motorbiking]

Life is very personal and it is up to the individual how life is allowed to unfurl and impinge on the individual.
My life has changed little since retiring from full time working some 25yrs ago and this is all because how I allow my life to progress from year to year. I could make my life even simpler by selling off my stock of rental properties, but then I actually enjoy the buying, developing, letting/renting and management of my wholly owned properties as doing so keeps me alert and still active as an investor for those preferring to rent in my area.

Doesn’t sound like you retired at all.

 

[Scally-Ho]

Doesn’t sound like you retired at all.

Retiring from salaried employment at 60 was a relief to say the least. I was putting in my all and as money is not everything, I took medical advice and ceased paid employment in favour of something that I not only enjoy, but also something that pays me all of the rewards and not what an employer deems I'm worth. To me it has been a 25yr constant holiday that also gives me all of the workshop time I need to enjoy my weeks.

 

[noseall]

What have we lost? Measles mumps and rubella were all but wiped out, thankfully. That is until right wing morons began their anti-vaxx campaign, off the back of Covid.
Thick as mince that lot.

What gave we gained?
A new kind of stupid.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Retiring from salaried employment at 60 was a relief to say the least. I was putting in my all and as money is not everything, I took medical advice and ceased paid employment in favour of something that I not only enjoy, but also something that pays me all of the rewards and not what an employer deems I'm worth. To me it has been a 25yr constant holiday that also gives me all of the workshop time I need to enjoy my weeks.

I agree with the outlook.

Chasing money to pay the bills is essential, until the bills have been mastered.

Much more to life than money and working to get it.

I pick and choose my hours, and put a lot back into my enjoyments by assisting others, even helping out without always being paid. An alien thought to some on here though

 

[Notch7]

there was nothing right wing or conservative about the last Tory government

1) privatisation = right wing
2) low taxes for the wealthy = right wing
3) austerity for the poor = right wing
4) creeping private contracts for NHS = right wing
5) cruel policies for the vulnerable and poor like 2 child cap and PIP assessments = right wing

 

[Notch7]

You are aware that most avoided this top marginal rate unlike today

Wealth inequality was massively lower then.

Rent
Electricity
Gas
Water

All much more affordable.

What shame it was destroyed by decades of Tories

 

[Charlie George]

I suggest you actually read what I wrote

Unless you are being intentionally fick, or just your natural state


1950s

Top rate of tax 90%
NHS
Welfare state
Lots of council houses being built

Yeah all very Conservative huh

You didn't mention 90% tax mate
The rest of your points belong mainly in the late 40s
Lots of council houses were built in the 50s, but the vast majority was built by the Tories, who were in power for 9 of the 10 years
You do realise that the video you replied about, was after 6 years of Tory rule, and you accuse me of being thick.

This guy achieved his target, lets see if Labour can.

Housing Minister (1951–1954)​

With the Conservative victory in 1951 Macmillan became Minister of Housing & Local Government under Churchill, who entrusted him with fulfilling the pledge to build 300,000 houses per year (up from the previous target of 200,000 a year), made in response to a speech from the floor at the 1950 Party Conference. Macmillan thought at first that Housing, which ranked 13 out of 16 in the Cabinet list, was a poisoned chalice, writing in his diary (28 October 1951) that it was "not my cup of tea at all ... I really haven't a clue how to set about the job". It meant obtaining scarce steel, cement and timber when the Treasury were trying to maximise exports and minimise imports.[96] 'It is a gamble—it will make or mar your political career,' Churchill said, 'but every humble home will bless your name if you succeed.'[97]
Macmillan achieved his housing target by the end of 1953, a year ahead of schedule

 

[MNW67]

You didn't mention 90% tax mate
The rest of your points belong mainly in the late 40s
Lots of council houses were built in the 50s, but the vast majority was built by the Tories, who were in power for 9 of the 10 years
You do realise that the video you replied about, was after 6 years of Tory rule, and you accuse me of being thick

I think the point being made was that, in the 1950s, the Tories continued with the policy framework established by Labour after the war.

In the same way that New Labour came to embrace Thatcherism and what some call the "neoliberal consensus" almost fifty years later.

 

[johnny2007]

I pick and choose my hours, and put a lot back into my enjoyments by assisting others, even helping out without always being paid. An alien thought to some on here though

Hey, behave!
Most jobs I do nowadays are paid with a bottle of scotch or a crate of beer.
Old fellas love me (and many of them are younger than me )

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Hey, behave!
Most jobs I do nowadays are paid with a bottle of scotch or a crate of beer.
Old fellas love me (and many of them are younger than me )

I wasn't aiming at you, and well done for enjoying life rather than chasing another few quid.

But I repeat, it's an alien thought to some on here.

 

[johnny2007]

I wasn't aiming at you, and well done for enjoying life rather than chasing another few quid.

But I repeat, it's an alien thought to some on here.

Well, some people here are in their prime and making money at every opportunity.
They don't have time to help others.
Surely if one day they'll retire, they'll dedicate their life to others...

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Well, some people here are in their prime and making money at every opportunity.
They don't have time to help others.
Surely if one day they'll retire, they'll dedicate their life to others...

No issue with those working hard to set themselves up. Work hard, retire or cut down hours early was always my intention, and it worked.

But the person that couldn't understand it and thought it was an alien concept, was that of a retiree.

 

[Notch7]

The rest of your points belong mainly in the late 40s

they all continued through the 1950s

Lots of council houses were built in the 50s, but the vast majority was built by the Tories, who were in power for 9 of the 10 years

great

so the citizens of this country enjoyed the benefit of left wing policies, whoever the govt was

You do realise that the video you replied about, was after 6 years of Tory rule

yes I realise the video was in the period which was benefitting from the socialist policies of the Attlee govt

 

[motorbiking]

1) privatisation = right wing
2) low taxes for the wealthy = right wing
3) austerity for the poor = right wing
4) creeping private contracts for NHS = right wing
5) cruel policies for the vulnerable and poor like 2 child cap and PIP assessments = right wing

NotchyFacts at their finest.