Toilet cistern - is there a Universal fitting / cure?

[Getting Colder...]

The cistern on our single flush centre button system started to leak - rightly or wrongly we put this down to the base washer in the central cistern having perished allowing water to perpetually travel down into the bowl - I removed said cistern and have travelled extensively locally to try to find a replacement - only to get shakes of heads and almost universal 'never seen one like that responses' - I have almost given up on this forlorn quest as the system has no brand markings anywhere - not on the cistern, water tank, or bowl...

So finally the question - if I remove the supporting cradle and reveal the aperture at the base of the water tank - will I be likely to be able to fit another brand new cistern fitting - with cradle in place the hole appears top be c 50mm. I am getting desperate as the last but one plumbers merchant suggested that I might need a new tank, cistern and bowl - all because one albeit fairly large, washer/ seal perished...

Any thoughts welcomed - thanks

PS sorry I would post images but the instructions on how to do that leave me stumped!

 

[chrishutt]

Would like to help, but can't quite picture what you mean. Your terminology is a bit non-standard and it's late...... a pic would help.

 

[Registered Gas Man]

Guessing you mean the foam washer I have highlighted; if i am correct then I am sure a replacement that isn't exactly the same would do the job.

BUT............ I am sure the merchants whom you have approached also know this, so may be that you need to do as Chris says and give us a little more info.

 

[Gasman1015]

He is talking about the actual flush valve, which has a large rubber washer valve replacements are difficult because of the various makes and sizes, especially the height of the unit, never seen any replacement washers for these.

 

[Registered Gas Man]

Now you say it a worn foam washer would be unusual

Replacing the guts of the cistern aint a difficult or expensive job though....or am I talking tosh again?

 

[Nige F]

"water perpe.prepert.....constantly running into bowl.......It`s the modern overflow warning . May only have been the float valve

 

[DarkInferno]

*perpetually

 

[Getting Colder...]

Thanks Gasman - yes it is the flush valve,

I have just bought a fluidmaster "flush valve and top flush button" (still in packet with receipt!) - and whilst this looks completely different - I think that the outlet diameter might be the same allowing me to start afresh as it were - would this sound reasonable or am I being wildly optimistic?

Thanks to all - much appreciated

 

[DIYnot]

Getting Colders original pictures:

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[Gasman1015]

The diameter is usually standard, it is the height compared to your cistern and push button. Go for it.

 

[Maintenance plumber]

I have seen these types of flush valve alot, i used to fit them, but not any more, i would sugest a trip to your local b& q and get a new push button type flush valve with internal overflow, most are ok you need to no wether it's 1 1/2" or 2" the foam washer(donut) can usally be bought at a plumbing supplies but there are several types, i carry the big fat one this usally works on most, be careful when tightening the wing nuts be sure to do them evenly, hope this helps some
Mark

 

[Getting Colder...]

Thanks for all of the advice and guidance - flush valve replaced and toilet back in action.

Many Thanks