toilet connecter

[ljrgas]

Hi guys got to do a job for a mate...
he wants the toilet replaced and this is what ive got to work with below

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• ljrgas
• 18 Apr 2013
• 1

the connecter is old cast iron and the pan connecter is stuck inside with hard putty had a stab with a screwdriver but its soild....
any ideas???

esd thinking could I cut the cast iron but really don't want it to crack!!!

heres whats outside

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• ljrgas
• 18 Apr 2013
• 1

 

[longdogs]

You can cut the cast iron pipe with an angle grinder. Watch out for flying carp though

 

[Hugh Jaleak]

Is that last bit through the wall to the pan definately cast?

 

[ljrgas]

pretty sure it was hugh though I didn't stab it with the screw driver....

outside is cast deffo including going into the wall to where I can see....

cutting it is a bit risky to be honest be if I have to do it I will be disclamer will be signed...

just trying to get some idea's

haven't fitted a toilet and bathroom suite for a while so quite looking forward to it this is the only thing im stuggling with

 

[Hugh Jaleak]

Tap it with a hammer, you'll soon find out! Seen a few of those somewhat squashed which tends to give away the fact it's lead rather than cast...

 

[ljrgas]

what options do I have it it turns out to be lead?

or cast...

ive only comes across plastic o toilet swaps before...

come across lead on bathroom wastes but no toilets

 

[Nige F]

Don`t usually disagree with Hugh but that`s cast - no sign of a wiped joint on a bobbin going into the iron soil outside . And that crossover with the rainwater , makes me think that the original build spent some money on the fittings - hence the long tail bend out through the wall - Ain`t I a sad b`stard noticing the details - The multiqwik connector inside is an offset one showing that there is a difference in level with the WC outlet - presumably because it`s a Horizontal Outlet fitted , so the new toilet will be the same , and may just slide in . Or dig out the multiqwick putty/cement etc. and replace like for like

 

[ljrgas]

hi Nige F can you recoemend a putty?

also whats the chance of me cracking the cast...
Thanks
Lee

 

[dann09]

Agree with nige, CI, painted CI with the connector, perhaps, sand and cemented in.

The conn. should have gone beyond, and into, the hub to pick up the pipe diameter.

Anyway, to do the job properly, and give future options ref. WC design and bathroom layout, chop the CI off at the wall.

 

[Hugh Jaleak]

Not seen a cast tail bend like that before Nige, so nice to learn something. Nothing sad, it's interesting to see some older detailed work like that sometimes. Anything any good round here is either on large private houses where you never get to see it, or was on the Victorian shoe factories, majority of which have long since been flattened.

 

[Nige F]

hi Nige F can you recoemend a putty?

also whats the chance of me cracking the cast...
Thanks
Lee

Traditionally Red Lead Putty but any modern one will do if it`s a bit sloppy in the tub mix a bit of polyfilla with it . You won`t crack the cast because you`re breaking out to an existing hole ( where the wc outlet goes )

 

[Nige F]

Not seen a cast tail bend like that before Nige, so nice to learn something. :

Funnily enough there is a classic one stack ventilated setup for 6 bogs on the side of a building in Eastbourne ( Whitley Bridge) all on display and almost a part of the facade by design . What you might call a modernist building - nothing much industrial here in Sussex , our industry was back in the 16th Century - casting cannons from iron , using charcoal . That`s why there are few trees on Ashdown Forest - all went to the charcoal burners , and gave one village it`s name - Blackboys

 

[hazetimesfive]

hooray for plastic is all i can say..

cast iron pipes, radiators, boilers... no thanks..

think of my back..