Toilet with an outward outlet/s trap

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The toilets that the oputlet goes down instead of horziontal into the stack - how do they work? do they join the stack under the floor or does the pipe then run horizontal under the floor and into the stack?
 
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they are most often used where the soil pipe on a downstairs WC goes straight down through a concrete floor.

They are very tiresome to replace as it is difficult to get a modern one that exactly fits the distance from back wall to soil pipe, and digging up a concrete floor is a terrible job.
 
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mine is upsatirds tho!

I need to change it and am thinking of maybe getting a low levl one so I can use existing pan connector as don't want to disturb concrete!
 
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sorry I haven't got a camera to take pics to load up.

basically the pan connector goes into a concrete raised ring and it must go through floor. Not sure I want to disturb the concrete ...
 
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concrete raised ring - not asbestos cement pipe is it :confused: Argh evacuate the street ;) you should get some sort of pan connector to fit but the close coupled WC cistern might need to be battened off the wall a tad
 
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