Toilets and changing rooms

[diy_fun_uk]

In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

You're referring to Highway Man I think.

 

[Highway Man]

You're referring to Highway Man I think.

Exactly

 

[Highway Man]

Please allow me to summarise your collective arguments, in a nutshell for those with attention deficiency problems:
"Anyone who holds a different opinion from you, (meaning Pete, HWM, MBK, JohnD, et al) are loonies, dummies, or mental, or live in a mental institution, or should be subjected to violence, because we have different opinions?"

Is it fair to assume that you are all well educated? Or is that a step too far?

Attack the post not the erm group of men.
Reported

 

[MNW67]

It's curious that Billy seeks to tell us what (he thinks) Christians believe, without any reference to Christ's teachings. He seems to think that documents written before Christ was born were written by Christ. Which is clearly absurd.

Most Christians believe in the Holy Trinity and that Christ existed and was present at the very start of the Old Testament.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

They are the cleaners washing floors etc whilst you are standing there c*** in hand

Perfectly normal, in Germany.

 

[festive]

Jesus Christ I cant keep up with this thread lolz.. it's all over the shop.

I think we should all meet for a curry one night and put some of these to bed.

 

[JohnD]

Most Christians believe in the Holy Trinity and that Christ existed and was present at the very start of the Old Testament.

How did you generate that assertion?

 

[MNW67]

How did you generate that assertion?

I was brought up in quite a religious family and was confirmed. The basics have remained with me, so I know about the Holy Trinity, although it is a very tricky concept to get your head round.

Every Christmas, for many years, I would give the bible reading at Church of John Chapter 1, which establishes that Christ was present at the Creation:

'In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God; all things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made.'

Christ is the Word.

 

[JohnD]

There is no evidence to support your assertion that most Christians believe your fairy story that documents written before Christ was born were written by Christ.

It is significant that you rely on John's gospel, which was written a lifetime after Jesus' life, and a story from Genesis, which was written long before his birth. Neither is a quotation of Christ's teachings.

Neither has anything to do with your wish that people who are not women should be allowed into places and events that are exclusively reserved for women.

 

[fillyboy]

There is no evidence to support your assertion that most Christians believe your fairy story that documents written before Christ was born were written by Christ.

It is significant that you rely on John's gospel, which was written a lifetime after Jesus' life, and a story from Genesis, which was written long before his birth. Neither is a quotation of Christ's teachings.

Neither has anything to do with your wish that people who are not women should be allowed into places and events that are exclusively reserved for women.

It's tricky working out who you hate the most John.

Jesus Christ.

Blokes who dress up as women.

People with big noses.

 

[MNW67]

There is no evidence to support your assertion that most Christians believe your fairy story that documents written before Christ was born were written by Christ.

Jesus didn't write anything really. That's not the point.

Most Christians believe in the Holy Trinity. Which means that they believe God has existed since the start of time as three different persons in one, the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.

Jesus is called the Word because he is that part of God which was made flesh in order to explain God's teaching to humanity.

John Chapter 1 is probably the most theologically important part of the entire bible. It explains the nature of Christ and the Holy Trinity and how Christ was instrumental in the creation of the heavens and the earth. Almost every Christian believes this. It is the foundation of Christianity. It might make more sense now:

''In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God; all things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made.'

 

[festive]

All religions are as real as father Xmas, i cannot for the life of me fathom how people believe this made up baloney.

The sheer number of conflicting religions isn’t evidence that 'one of them must be true' it’s evidence that they are probably all human inventions.

When multiple systems claim absolute truth, describe the same themes in incompatible ways, offer no independent evidence, and fail to converge over time, the rational conclusion isn’t that one is secretly correct, it’s that the phenomenon itself is being misinterpreted.
In every other field, truth converges as knowledge improves. Religion fragments. That pattern fits stories created to explain fear, meaning, and the unknown far better than it fits an objective reality.
I know some people may find this uncomfortable as it's a vital support/crutch for some people and how they percieve the world, not me thanks, and sorry its just my opinion, good for you if it works.

All religions cunjure up that headbutting desk emoji in my minds eye.

 

[fillyboy]

I know some people may find this uncomfortable as it's a vital support/crutch for some people and how they percieve the world, not me thanks, and sorry its just my opinion, good for you if it works.

I'm not a believer but I try not to lose sight of the fact that for many believers it is a support mechanism, perhaps much more than that.

I also try not to lose sight of the fact that there are religions, whose aim is to destroy anyone who is a non believer.

 

[MNW67]

I am boringly agnostic. I only got involved in this discussion to try help others resolve a dispute.