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Hello,
I'm looking for advice/opinions on installing tricky internal condensate pipe routing for a new boiler to replace an old non-condensing unit. Been losing sleep over this...
The property is an old warehouse converted flat, making things fun. External routing isn't possible for a range of reasons (incl. modification of building exterior and technical infeasibility).
The best internal route I've come up so far (with the help of 3 heating engineers, 1 of whom is crazy enough to give it a stab) would need to be pumped vertically up approx. 3m (to high ceiling) from the boiler then along a ceiling architrave through main living area approx. 10m horizontal, turn a right angle (L-shape room) then run for another 5m along more ceiling architrave horizontal, then around/through a plastered 80cm wide brick support pillar (most of the fun) into a void above the kitchen, then vertical down 3 metres into the kitchen sink area/main gravity waste pipe.
Most of this pipework I can conceal in the architrave/void but I believe some around the pillar (if possible to traverse) is likely to be visible which is displeaing to me but seems the least-worst option.
The total run needed would be approx. 25m. I'm curious about:
1. Whether having long horizontal sections (in architrave) that I cannot slope for aesthetic reasons will cause drainage problems. I know external runs need sloping to avoid freezing but not sure if internal is the same. Due to the sheer length here, quite a lot of fluid would be retained inside the pipe.
2. Anecdotally the likelihood of this pipe having leaks/drainage problems i.e. water into my living area.
3. Noise of condensate fluid flow/pump, again due to runnnig through living area.
Under wooden floor is another option. This would be more direct (approx. 13-14m horizontal also) but involves destruction of 800 sq/ft of solid oak flooring in otherwise good condition i.e. costly to replace and even more so should it leak into my downstairs neighbour's flat ceiling.
Relocating the boiler to the kitchen has a similar problem of wood floor destruction for the gas/ch pipes and also requires cutting the exterior brickwork for a new flue (again a no-no). So ruled out.
Any opinions/experience gratefully received!
I'm looking for advice/opinions on installing tricky internal condensate pipe routing for a new boiler to replace an old non-condensing unit. Been losing sleep over this...
The property is an old warehouse converted flat, making things fun. External routing isn't possible for a range of reasons (incl. modification of building exterior and technical infeasibility).
The best internal route I've come up so far (with the help of 3 heating engineers, 1 of whom is crazy enough to give it a stab) would need to be pumped vertically up approx. 3m (to high ceiling) from the boiler then along a ceiling architrave through main living area approx. 10m horizontal, turn a right angle (L-shape room) then run for another 5m along more ceiling architrave horizontal, then around/through a plastered 80cm wide brick support pillar (most of the fun) into a void above the kitchen, then vertical down 3 metres into the kitchen sink area/main gravity waste pipe.
Most of this pipework I can conceal in the architrave/void but I believe some around the pillar (if possible to traverse) is likely to be visible which is displeaing to me but seems the least-worst option.
The total run needed would be approx. 25m. I'm curious about:
1. Whether having long horizontal sections (in architrave) that I cannot slope for aesthetic reasons will cause drainage problems. I know external runs need sloping to avoid freezing but not sure if internal is the same. Due to the sheer length here, quite a lot of fluid would be retained inside the pipe.
2. Anecdotally the likelihood of this pipe having leaks/drainage problems i.e. water into my living area.
3. Noise of condensate fluid flow/pump, again due to runnnig through living area.
Under wooden floor is another option. This would be more direct (approx. 13-14m horizontal also) but involves destruction of 800 sq/ft of solid oak flooring in otherwise good condition i.e. costly to replace and even more so should it leak into my downstairs neighbour's flat ceiling.
Relocating the boiler to the kitchen has a similar problem of wood floor destruction for the gas/ch pipes and also requires cutting the exterior brickwork for a new flue (again a no-no). So ruled out.
Any opinions/experience gratefully received!