Twin and Earth
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No, you're not, but in the eyes of Copyright law, you might be resulting in other people not buying it from the publishers.
In any event, British Standards are not 'legal documents' - they are (usually very expensive!) Standards produced by an 'independent' organisation. At under £100, BS7671 is actually one of the cheaper/cheapest ones.
I think we may need stillp!
Kind Regards, John
Making copies etc. for 'private study' by an individual has always been allowed by Coypright law. Posting on a public Internet forum is a slightly different matter
I only raised this issue because the mods have already removed one copyright-infringing post from this thread.
Kind Regards, John
The UK gets this paranoid keeping life safety out of the hands of its own people?
I can get the legal regs from Canada, US and other countries from any local forum.It's nothing to do with the UK (Berne is in Switzerland!) or paranoia, but, is international law to protect the commercial interests of those who produce and sell copyright material - and, AFAIAA the Berne Convention applies as much in the US as it does in the UK.The UK gets this paranoid keeping life safety out of the hands of its own people?
UK 'legal documents', as you put it (i.e. Legislation, such as the Building Regulations, including "Part P") are freely available, at no cost.
Kind Regards, John
It's nothing to do with the UK (Berne is in Switzerland!) or paranoia, but, is international law to protect the commercial interests of those who produce and sell copyright material - and, AFAIAA the Berne Convention applies as much in the US as it does in the UK.The UK gets this paranoid keeping life safety out of the hands of its own people?
UK 'legal documents', as you put it (i.e. Legislation, such as the Building Regulations, including "Part P") are freely available, at no cost.
Kind Regards, John
Ok, I guess that makes more sense, but the part that confuses me is that the CEC and NEC have similar copy right disclaimers, but are openly traded in public forums without any restrictions.
Do you have a link to Part P then which I could use, if ok?
It won't help you very much, since "Part P" of the Building regs is just one sentence, which essentially just says that electrical work should be done safely .... but, here you go ... (click here and scroll right to bottom)
Kind Regards, John
Different copyright holders will obviously have different attitudes to enforcement (or not) of their rights under copyright law - depending, at least in part, on how commercially important to them are sales of the material in question.
Those who manage forums/websites/newspapers/whatever are generally fairly cautious about possible copyright infringements, since they will generally not know whether or not the copyright holder would want to enforce their rights.
Kind Regards, John
You mean BS7671? If so, yes, of course - as discussed above, you buy a copy, and it seems that TLC are currently offering the lowest price (£65 IIRC).
Kind Regards, John
But if BS7671 is used and enforced as a legal standard in the UK, there is no way to obtain it free of charge such as a government record's copy?
... but it's NOT. There is no legal requirement to comply with BS7671, so long as you can find some other way of demonstrating that you have complied with Part P (i.e. done the work 'safely'). It's up to you to decide how you want to demonstrate compliance with Part P.
Kind Regards, John
But the inspector has to use something as a basis to judge my work, right?
BTW, I'm going to remove the links to BS7671 from my posts then.
Yes - but, at least in theory, (s)he could not 'fail' an installation because of non-compliance with BS7671, if you could demonstrate that the work nevertheless complied with Part P. However, few people, other perhaps than some academics, are likely to be able to demonstrate that convincingly. As I said, the law does NOT require compliance with BS7671.
Kind Regards, John
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