Ukraine counter offensive

[ajohn]

Gazprom, the leading Russian gas company, which is co-owned by the state, has a monopoly on the country’s export market, which limits domestic competitors. Gazprom is estimated to account for at least 5% of Russia’s gross domestic product.

 

[JohnD]

Gazprom, the leading Russian gas company, which is co-owned by the state, has a monopoly on the country’s export market, which limits domestic competitors. Gazprom is estimated to account for at least 5% of Russia’s gross domestic product.

What is the relevance of your quotation?

 

[transam]

New Year’s Eve 1999 a 47 year old Putin promised to protect

Freedom of speech
Freedom of conscience
Freedom of the media
Ownership rights

These fundamental elements of a civilised society

6 months later bill Clinton declared
Mr Putin is fully capable of building a prosperous strong Russia while preserving freedom purslism and the rule of law

Hmmm

Almost immediately Putin be brought Russias few independent tv under state control

Banked his self 75 billion

Jailed his opponents or those who disagreed with him

If they were not jailed they had accidents

 

[transam]

A Russian installed deputy head of the annexed Kherson area has rebuked the Russian leadership

He said generals and ministers fail to understand the problem
Allowing such a state of affairs-they could as officers have shot themselves

 

[Pat ex]

Allowing such a state of affairs-they could as officers have shot themselves

Is that better than falling out of a window?

 

[transam]

Facts are that the Russians failed in there initial military objective and they have made a dogs breakfast of there invasion

There armed forces are not up to snuff ??

Equally imo the Ukranians cannot win ?? This war militarily ?

So there will need to be a negotiated settlement

Diplomats need to start diplomacy

Turkey ???

 

[IT Minion]

Equally imo the Ukranians cannot win ?? This war militarily ?

There's no law of physics that says they can't. Everything else is negotiable.

 

[transam]

There's no law of physics that says they can't. Everything else is negotiable.

Common sense dictates that all the time Putin is in charge they will not win militarily ??

Although one could argue the word win
?? What exactly win is ???

 

[wobs]

This war will end. Someday. Another will begin. Another day. War is endless.

The trend to for less wars:

War and Peace

Humans are capable of atrocious cruelty – the history of war makes this all too clear. How many died in war? And what are the prospects for making the world more peaceful?

ourworldindata.org

Or here:

And

 

[transam]

At this critical point in this caper the US administration wants no cracks appearing in the transatlantic alliance

Concerns have been voiced about that German bloke Scholz ??

Who is being considered a potential
Loose cannon in the alliance ??

 

[transam]

Russians are are pillaging and destroying historical sites in the Ukraine
Reports suggest that the Russians have pillaged over 40 musemns
And pinched hundreds of millions dollars worth of artefacts

The word looting goes hand in hand
With the words Russian army

Tis who they are tis what they have always done

 

[old duffer]

With the special operation about to be redesignated as a counter terrorist campaign, Russia should take a page from the USA/EU/GB Operation Manual. They came up with this ingenious invention called "war on terror" by which they simply gave themselves the power to act, intervene and wage war anywhere in the world often against countries or people who never laid a hand on USA/EU/GB.

 

[old duffer]

Hasn't that been the way of the world for decades, centuries, millennia?

 

[old duffer]

Russians are are pillaging and destroying historical sites in the Ukraine
Reports suggest that the Russians have pillaged over 40 musemns
And pinched hundreds of millions dollars worth of artefacts

The word looting goes hand in hand
With the words Russian army

Tis who they are tis what they have always done

 

[ajohn]

Who is being considered a potential
Loose cannon in the alliance ??

Most weatern leaders are concerned about the reaction of their populations over time. Gemany has no problems with that at the moment and probably wont in the near future. One eastern european country is having problems but no idea of the size of the demo's / public opinion. Those seem to have worse inflation problems.

All this twa tter about various EU countries is a bit pointless really.

They have reduced russian gas usage from 41% to 7.5%.