Us Atv to uk

[MeJames]

The fuse in the white plug is purely to protect the white plug and anyone poking things in it no other reason.

it can possibly be used safely with a 13 amp fuse but in your case and for what your using it for it only needs a 3 or a 5, the lowest fuse suitable is always the safest option
As said previously the black thing will most likely have a fuse or similar sealed inside the unit

Yes but why bother with a fuse at all when the black adaptor has one why not leave it blank sure it will still power right seen as the black adaptor has a fuse why bother adding too I guess I'm asking because what's the purpose or function is it a necessary action to,need to have a fuse in the white plug as well as the fuse built in the adaptor? Does it help with a short circuit or something maybe alone the black adaptors fuse won't help a short circuit by its self

What do you mean by poking things in the white plug it protects them? How prevent electrical shock?

So is that not double loaded the socket. As the black adaptor has a fuse built in now on top on that we are putting a 13 amp fuse or even lower 5 amp or 3 amp I never knew that you could do that

It's like putting a 13 amp fuse in a plug then using a another 13 amp adaptor similar thing isn't

Oh well I never knew

But just with those plugs I have been using a tooth brush with an shaver plug and charging for years never knew it was unsafe even shaver I use the adaptors hmmm you guys have got me thinking now

And one more thing I noticed us use plugs that are 2 pin square but my tooth brush using a round 2 pin charger which country uses the rounder 2 pn plugs then?

And also how do you guys know oh a 3 amp fuse will. Be fine with that adaptor if I was to use it not that I will or 13 amp would of been fine

Because I'm using a charger that's got 2 pin but I put in into a plug that's a shaver type adaptor but now I'm not even sure how to tell if even the fuse in there is fine

 

[333rocky333]

Think your having a laugh.
The people selling the white thing aint made it just for you have they.
They make it with a fuse to protect the white thing, they dont give a toss what you plug into it do they, its an adapter thats all.

 

[Grizzly]

MeJames: it strikes me that you don't really seem to know how a fuse works, looking at some of your ramblings above.

I'd give up now, as you're not really making much sense.

 

[MeJames]

MeJames: it strikes me that you don't really seem to know how a fuse works, looking at some of your ramblings above.

I'd give up now, as you're not really making much sense.

Why give up explain it to the person

 

[MeJames]

MeJames: it strikes me that you don't really seem to know how a fuse works, looking at some of your ramblings above.

I'd give up now, as you're not really making much sense.

Why give up explain it to the person

What strikes me is a qualified electrician too lazy too explain the in and outs of electrical components and how they work and to call the person questions rumblings is quite bad behaviour

To me it seems if someone did ask you any electrical question to you be on if you was onsite or on this forum you would respond to them the same way you have responded to me oh I give up your not making sense anymore not the way to explain thing really but I suppose that lets other users that come to the forum for help or explanations a bit wary to ask anything as that's the response that they are met with

May be your on the forum to have a laugh grizzly and just not bother to fully explain things that users in this forum need xplaining to who knows

 

[bernardgreen]

The black adapter will have protection of some sort built inside, when this fails you usually throw it in the bin rather than repair it

You are too optomistic.....

The one I took apart recently had no protection at all. No fuse and no thermal cut out.

An identical one rated 110--230 volt had caught fire even though the equipment was not in use at the time.

The replacement of the same type was getting warm to hot so it was replaced with a larger free standing ( ie not a wall wart ) unit. The owner then asked me to look at it. Very poor cheap design, It might have survived on 110 volts 60 Hz ( US supply ) but as was clear it could not cope with 230 volts 50 Hz. The tranformer ( yes a wound transformer ) was heating up on it's own internal losses with the secondary disconnected.

 

[MeJames]

The black adapter will have protection of some sort built inside, when this fails you usually throw it in the bin rather than repair it

You are too optomistic.....

The one I took apart recently had no protection at all. No fuse and no thermal cut out.

An identical one rated 110--230 volt had caught fire even though the equipment was not in use at the time.

The replacement of the same type was getting warm to hot so it was replaced with a larger free standing ( ie not a wall wart ) unit. The owner then asked me to look at it. Very poor cheap design, It might have survived on 110 volts 60 Hz ( US supply ) but as was clear it could not cope with 230 volts 50 Hz. The tranformer ( yes a wound transformer ) was heating up on it's own internal losses with the secondary disconnected.

Which box did you take apart? Are you referring to the box not bieng safe or the cable adaptor that comes with the box

 

[bernardgreen]

A black box very similar to the one you show in your first post in this thread.

If the device has US style pins it (possibly) has not been designed with due consideration for use in the UK and while it might cope with UK supply there is NO guarantee that it will remain safe when on a UK supply.

Why not do what has been suggested and purchase a UK sourced power unit and throw away what might be a poor quality and possibly dangerous ( when on 230 volt ) item. Before throwing it away snap the pins off so it cannot be used after being "recycled"

Even if it doesn't catch fire it might "collapse" internally and over volt and destroy the equiment it is connected to.

 

[MeJames]

A black box very similar to the one you show in your first post in this thread.

If the device has US style pins it (possibly) has not been designed with due consideration for use in the UK and while it might cope with UK supply there is NO guarantee that it will remain safe when on a UK supply.

Why not do what has been suggested and purchase a UK sourced power unit and throw away what might be a poor quality and possibly dangerous ( when on 230 volt ) item. Before throwing it away snap the pins off so it cannot be used after being "recycled"

Even if it doesn't catch fire it might "collapse" internally and over volt and destroy the equiment it is connected to.

The media box has been made to uk standards that's why it's got 220v

Uk,powsoup it version of the box not suggested what was suggested was to buy a uk plug to use with the item not throw it away like your suggesting

I have already purchased a uk plug adaptor lead to use with the unit that you apparently say is dangerous because you have open up the media box and it has no safety built in the box? Are you sure but is made to uk standards

the electrician suggested it at the shop to use that lead with that box

So why throw the box away seems a silly thing to do

 

[bernardgreen]

The device has been made to uk standards that's why it's got 220v

So [a] why has it got a US plug and why 220 volt when the UK is 230 volt.

Here's an idea: Take your box along to somewhere like Maplins, and ask them to sell you a power supply that matches the voltage & power rating that you need.

Uk,power sourced unit was not suggested what was suggested was to buy a uk plug to use with the item not throw it away like your suggesting

 

[MeJames]

The device has been made to uk standards that's why it's got 220v

So [a] why has it got a US plug and why 220 volt when the UK is 230 volt.

Here's an idea: Take your box along to somewhere like Maplins, and ask them to sell you a power supply that matches the voltage & power rating that you need.

Uk,power sourced unit was not suggested what was suggested was to buy a uk plug to use with the item not throw it away like your suggesting

Yes a power supply not binning the actual box. You have said you opened the media box and said its not safe?


So you are saying in theory to

A) bin the media box because it's not 230v

B) even tough I have brought a power supply from a electrical shop that is a uk lead because you opened up the media box and found it not to be safe and the media box rating is not 230v????

 

[bernardgreen]

is the bit I reccomend throwing away.

 

[MeJames]

Well you did say black box which is what was misleading

Referring to black box instead of black adaptor

I asked you did you open the box or adaptor you replied

I opened the black box similar to the picture

Again here you mention

Quote

If the device has US style pins it (possibly) has not been designed with due consideration for use in the UK and while it might cope with UK supply there is NO guarantee that it will remain safe when on a UK supply.

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Quote why has the device got 220 v when uk has 230v quote

It hasn't it's rated at 100v to 240v




Little misleading which gives the impression you opened the black box media center and found it to be totally unsafe and not built to uk standards which will mislead anyone else purchasing the media center

Give them the impression it's a fire hazard when in fact I doubt that's the case and they have obviously built the box to be able to use in the uk where the voltage is suitable for 100/240v sames as mobile phone chargers work here and abroad

Same as USA phone chargers work here and abroad

And so does a computer brought in USA that works here too

 

[Cigaro]

That power supply is not rated for the voltage of UK mains, which can be between 220 and 250 volts. It might "only" be ten volts but if it is not rated for the voltage you are putting in it might fail catastrophically.

The computer and phone charger you refer to may be rated to the UK mains voltage, or you may just be lucky.

Switchmode power supplies, which these are, are clever and can work over a wide range of input voltages, but you just can't exceed the absolute maximum rating and hope it will be OK. It's not safe.

Don't get your replacement power adapter from maplin, either. You'll pay well over the odds.

Edit: I didn't read the bit where you said it was 240v rated. Should be OK, then, but the issue is still with the adapter itself. US style plugs aren't rated for 240 volts. You can't gaurantee one of those adapters will be safe.

Just buy a new power supply, for god's sake - they're hardly expensive.

 

[MeJames]

That power supply is not rated for the voltage of UK mains, which can be between 220 and 250 volts. It might "only" be ten volts but if it is not rated for the voltage you are putting in it might fail catastrophically.

The computer and phone charger you refer to may be rated to the UK mains voltage, or you may just be lucky.

Switchmode power supplies, which these are, are clever and can work over a wide range of input voltages, but you just can't exceed the absolute maximum rating and hope it will be OK. It's not safe.

Don't get your replacement power adapter from maplin, either. You'll pay well over the odds.
.

Just buy a new power supply, for god's sake - they're hardly expensive.

Fair enough cigaro tooken your advice btw if it's not rated why does it say 100-240v

Ok forget maplins what's your recommendation on where to buy the replacement cable from that is safe

Edit: I didn't read the bit where you said it was 240v rated. Should be OK, then, but the issue is still with the adapter itself. US style plugs aren't rated for 240 volts. You can't gaurantee one of those adapters will be safe