Vaillant vrdialog - anyone using?

[strowger]

Anyone using Vaillant's Vrdialog software?

I've got this set up at home for data logging and remote control of the heating over the Internet. What I've done is a bit (lot) of a bodge - would be interested to hear from anyone else who is using it. http://www.hx7.net/vaillant/how.html is what I've done.

Even knowing if there are updated versions available would be good! I've got vrdialog 810 v2.1.2.18. I assume there are bugfixes - certainly it's buggy enough - but emailing Vaillant doesn't get any response, and when I ring them they promised a call-back and then don't.

 

[TheGasMan26]

I havn't used this but we fit there Boilers & it sounds good from the literature.
It says that the user settings alterations via the net don't use special software & u can access it from any internet connected pc, I'm assuming a site u log into or summat.
The min fee for all this is £14.99, maybe youv got what vaillant use to monitor & alter boiler settings as part of the service is them monitoring your boiler for breakdowns & solving minor probs via the fone or send an eng. for bigger fixes which is the main appeal to most.

 

[strowger]

You are talking about vrnetdialog.

Wonderful product, if it does what they claim, but they don't offer it in the UK.

 

[TheGasMan26]

well its a bit dodgy putting all the literature in with the instructions including prices in £ & text in english, very dodgy.

 

[strowger]

Well - I hope you're right and they do sell it in the UK - do you have any contacts at Vaillant UK who know about it?

It isn't listed on their UK website and the people who answer their phones don't know anything about it

 

[cider]

I did some Vaillant training recently and the lecturer said it was gonna be offered soon.
Personally I think its bad news if you want to maintain boilers as well as fit them.

 

[mickyg]

They do have it up and running in the UK, I guess you need to speak to the right people! Your best bet is finding an installer with a good relationship with his rep. In theory it is a good idea. British Gas toyed with a similar idea on a number of occassions, even going as far as fitting boilers with the software and connection devices, but it never made it to the final hurdle.

 

[jbubo]

I have VRDIALOG 810/2 too but I'm not quite satisfied. My version (2.0.0.6) has several bugs and doesn't display several important parameters from my heating system (actual room temperature, current boiler state etc). It is form the end of 2007.

I attach some printscreens of my version, does your version look same ?

Do you have available room temperature in your version ( 2.1.2.18 ) ?

JB

Vrdialog Boiler data

• jbubo
• 7 Jan 2010
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VRDIALOG version 2.0.0.6

Vrdialog VR 60 heating mixer data

• jbubo
• 7 Jan 2010
• 1

VRDIALOG version 2.0.0.6

 

[jackthom]

Can anyone tell me what sort of interface/leads come with this software?

Does it have to plug into the VRT 400/430 or can a pair of wires be taken direct to the boiler ebus connections?

 

[strowger]

I have VRDIALOG 810/2 too but I'm not quite satisfied. My version (2.0.0.6) has several bugs and doesn't display several important parameters from my heating system (actual room temperature, current boiler state etc). It is form the end of 2007.

I attach some printscreens of my version, does your version look same ?

Do you have available room temperature in your version ( 2.1.2.18 ) ?

Jbubo,

Many thanks for the reply.

My version came with a version.txt file claiming:
<pre>
vrDIALOG v2.0.0.10
vrDIALOG 810 v2.1.2.18
</pre>

I do indeed get the room temperature reported. I log and graph it. It comes from the VRC400.

Lots of screen-grabs at http://www.hx7.net/pcl/vrdialog/

 

[strowger]

Can anyone tell me what sort of interface/leads come with this software?

Does it have to plug into the VRT 400/430 or can a pair of wires be taken direct to the boiler ebus connections?

It comes with a small black box that contains the interface hardware. Said box has 3 connections:

USB, to your PC.

Old connector, for pre-eBus boilers

eBus connector (RJ socket).

It comes with one of each type of cable as well.

I have mine plugged in to the RJ socket on the boiler PCB, but there's no reason I can think of why you couldn't chop the plug off and wire it into the eBus wherever you like.

 

[jbubo]

Hello everybody,

I obtained new version of vrDialog 810 v 2.1.2.18 and this version is much better then my earlier version (2.0.0.6).

I have connected auromatic 620, VR60 (mixing circuits), VR90 (next remote control) and boiler ecoTec INT 186 on the eBus.

The new version shows much more details about boiler ecoTec INT 186 including normally hide informations. But graphs about datalogging are little bit badly displayed.

But it doesn't display actual room temperature either. I think that no version can't read actual room temperature from auromatic 620 and VR 90.

 

[davebgas]

Where did you buy it? Bern looking into it myself and vaillants website states both versions are on the disc but when search to buy it only one is listed? Thanks

 

[Onetap]

Anyone using Vaillant's Vrdialog software?

No, I didn't know that was available. I think I'm going to have to investigate it. I have a VRC 430 and a VR 65. Thanks for posting.


PS REgarding your "VRC 400 problems", you say that;

""Anti-legionnaire's disease" function. Supposed to heat the hot water tank up to 75C once a week, regardless of the thermostat setting. I've enabled it, but (as my tank graphs clearly show) it doesn't do anything. Poor quality."

The Unistor is supplied with a thermistor temperature sensor, which is wired to the VR 65. The sensor is also supplied with the VR65. It can be used on a hot water cylinder by cutting out a block of the polyurethane cylinder insulation, cutting a groove for the cable, fixing the sensor against the metal cylinder wall and taping the insulation back in place.

Most UK cylinders have a thermostat, which should be set at 60 degC and would also be wired to the VR 65. The Anti-legionella function won't work with a cylinder thermostat, since the controls cannot detect when the cylinder is at 75degC; they can with the sensor.

"The "one time recharging/cylinder boost" feature. Manual page 21 is missing the vital information that this feature doesn't do anything unless you have a Vaillant Unistor cylinder."

I suspect that this is another disadvantage of using a cylinder thermostat and not the sensor.

 

[strowger]

The Unistor is supplied with a thermistor temperature sensor, which is wired to the VR 65. The sensor is also supplied with the VR65. It can be used on a hot water cylinder by cutting out a block of the polyurethane cylinder insulation, cutting a groove for the cable, fixing the sensor against the metal cylinder wall and taping the insulation back in place.

Hi,

Thanks for the reply.

Either that was missing from my VR65, or my installer made a mistake. Certainly I have a thermostat attached to my cylinder in the manner you describe, but it's a Honeywell unit, not a Vaillant one.

Cheers