Venezuela

[Elsa TLC]

Loony right is an accurate description of you and some others on here, especially SPLINE.

I celebrate your creativity ️

 

[noseall]

America and the rest of the world is awash with North & South American drugs.

DT is doing something about it.

96% of drugs are shipped across land borders. Blowing up boats, stealing oil, arresting a fellow dictator, is for show.

The Epstein files are not going to go away.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

None of you loony right understand what a lefty is.

It's anybody that isn't far right and responds to 3 line slogans. A la farage fodder

They are so far right that anybody central, or even centre right is a racing lefty.

They are getting more extreme right daily

 

[carmanmemoranda]

America and the rest of the world is awash with North & South American drugs.

DT is doing something about it. Europe and other countries will benefit from this.

But they wont put their hands in the pockets to help America's fight on drugs.

So what pays for it? The American tax payer or Venezuelan oil?

Have you got ANY facts for your wild claims?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

96% of drugs are shipped across land borders. Blowing up boats, stealing oil arresting a fellow dictator, is for show.

The Epstein files are not going to go away.

Trump is a squirrel.

Look, Venezuela!

 

[MNW67]

Reports from insiders say the thing which finally triggered Trump to invade was Maduro mocking Trump's dancing at recent rallies.

 

[warey4life]

Reports from insiders say the thing which finally triggered Trump to invade was Maduro mocking Trump's dancing at recent rallies.

I can believe that.

 

[MNW67]

Nobody really knows yet what the invasion was about and what Trump's plan is.

What we do know for sure:

The invasion was nothing to do with drugs. 97% of illegal drugs in the USA come from Colombia and Mexico.

The invasion was illegal under international law.

The NY Times take:

A more plausible explanation for the attacks on Venezuela may instead be found in Mr. Trump’s recently released National Security Strategy. It claimed the right to dominate Latin America: “After years of neglect, the United States will reassert and enforce the Monroe Doctrine to restore American pre-eminence in the Western Hemisphere.” In what the document called the “Trump Corollary,” the administration vowed to redeploy forces from around the world to the region, stop traffickers on the high seas, use lethal force against migrants and drug runners and potentially base more U.S. troops around the region.

Venezuela has apparently become the first country subject to this latter-day imperialism, and it represents a dangerous and illegal approach to America’s place in the world. By proceeding without any semblance of international legitimacy, valid legal authority or domestic endorsement, Mr. Trump risks providing justification for authoritarians in China, Russia and elsewhere who want to dominate their own neighbors. More immediately, he threatens to replicate the American hubris that led to the invasion of Iraq in 2003.

As a presidential candidate, Mr. Trump seemed to recognize the problems with military overreach. In 2016, he was the rare Republican politician to call out the folly of President George W. Bush’s Iraq war. In 2024, he said: “I’m not going to start a war. I’m going to stop wars.”

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We will hold out hope that the current crisis will end less badly than we expect. We fear that the result of Mr. Trump’s adventurism is increased suffering for Venezuelans, rising regional instability and lasting damage for America’s interests around the world. We know that Mr. Trump’s warmongering violates the law.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I think a few (both Republicans and democrats) have said, maduro was bad.

But it doesn't give trump any right to invade and impose his personal view on Venezuela. It's not even a congress view

 

[warey4life]

This invasion and kidnapping won't benefit Venezuelans. It will probably turn out like many other Western interventions, like Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya.

 

[Highway Man]

This invasion and kidnapping won't benefit Venezuelans. It will probably turn out like many other Western interventions, like Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya.

They will already booking their boat rides here then,

 

[warey4life]

They will already booking their boat rides here then,

They'll continue to flee to Columbia.

 

[Odds]

If trump really wanted to go after the Cartels he'd start with Columbia.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

They will already booking their boat rides here then,

You may be jesting, or you may be serious, I'm not sure.

But you are at least partially right

 

[Highway Man]

If trump really wanted to go after the Cartels he'd start with Columbia.

That has been ongoing for years