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Water Authority and Washing machine to rain water...advice.

Discussion in 'Building Regulations and Planning Permission' started by piper64, 10 Nov 2017.

  1. piper64

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    I live in a 1940's built house, my washing machine is in the back of the outhouse and I've just been told that I have to re route the waste to a sewer drain within 30 days.

    I've lived in this house for 14 years and the washing machine has always been in the same place and was in the same place when we bought the house. There are 10 houses in my road and most if not all of them discharge to the rainwater because the kitchens are not big enough to house a washing machine along with the usual kitchen appliances.

    Apparently the end house has complained that his patio has flooded and the Water Authority say its because all the other houses discharge to the wrong pipe which then causes a blockage at his house, hence the flooding.

    The problem is that in order to comply with their order, I have to route my washing machine waste from the back of the outhouse to the front. This is a run of some 30 feet, gently sloping and turning around 3 walls to reach the front of the house where the downstairs ( outhouse) toilet is sited. It's not possible to connect to the outlet of the toilet ( as was suggested by the Authority) because it is ceramic and goes vertically down, not out the wall.

    The only way is to dig down outside the outhouse, to find the sewer pipe and tap into it. That obviously incurs great expense and hassle. I could do it myself, but not sure how to 'tap into' a sewer pipe.

    Do I have any grounds to refuse their request? The house was subject to a survey when we bought it and nothing was flagged then. The issue has 'suddenly' become a problem after all these years, which I don't believe.

    I am going to talk to the other households and see what they are going to do, presuming they have been told the same.

    If I have to do it, then I can save money by doing it myself, maybe not within the 30 days. Any advice on how to 'tap into' a sewer pipe? How deep down is it likely to be?
     
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    Short term solution - discharge waster into a large bucket, and tip it down the toilet?
     
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    That would be a good idea in order to show them my 'compliance' with their request, but I've thought of another better solution. Throw the old toilet away, put in a new one with a standard outlet connected to a 90 degree elbow, then fit the w/m waste into that. I've also requested a refund and future waiver of part of my water bill due to them not having to process the rainwater.
     
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    Repost in the Building Regulations section.
     
  6. Not sure what the back of you're toilet is like, but could you fit this, and then run the W/M waste into it.
     
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    No. It's not a request.
     
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    Good luck with that bit, your chances of this are on the scales of "slim to fat" and I think its going to be at the top end of the scale. :)
     
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    To tap in you simply add a plastic junction with a pair of AC4000 connectors onto the clay.
     
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    This has been more prevalent recently due to the EU legislation forcing us to clean up our rivers and lakes. Especially in London, the rivers have a history of being basically open sewers.
    Misconnections basically flush untreated waste into the river.
    On the plus side, as soon as brexit actually happens, we'll be free to dump as much waste into the rivers as we like, and we will have taken back the control of whether the current government have the power to do anything about it.
    Anyway to answer your question, I think dig your trench and lay the pipe yourself will be easier. You can do it in the plastic pipe so it is an easy job. Take special care of the falls, and use an adapter to connect to the existing pipe rather than trying to break into a man hole.
     
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    Thanks for the replies chaps, but I think my best, easiest and cheapest option is to do as I said earlier which is replace the toilet and use a connector to the floor with a boss on it for the w/m waste pipework. The one I saw was like the one you linked to Doggit and into the bargain, I get to redecorate the downstairs loo. Great..:S
     
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    Just had a reply from Wessex Water and they have agreed that I should have a rebate due to rainwater going to soakaway. It gets backdated to either when I took the property on or up to 6 years whichever is soonest....hmmm. They just got away with paying me back half of what they owe me for overcharging for the last 12 years.

    The rebate and refund figures they give are confusing, so I have asked for clarification, but at the moment it's better than a kick in the balls.
     
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