Waygo Connectors in the Ceiling

[RichTee]

Hi All

Can I use Waygo connectors to connect some lighting cable 1.5m2 together in the ceiling. Do I need the waygos in a junction box as they wont be accesible or is there a better solution?

Thanks

Rich

 

[winston1]

Wagos must be in a Wago box not left loose in the ceiling. An alternative would be a MF junction box. 1.5mm2 is not lighting cable, it is oversized. Use 1.0mm2 cable.

 

[plugwash]

"Wago connectors" (and similar connectors from other brands) must be in an enclosure.

If they will be accessible for inspection, then any enclosure which is generally suitable for use as an electrical enclosure can be used.

If they will not be accessible for inspection, then a suitable maintenance free junction box is needed, and you need to follow it's instructions. If you go the Wago route, that means matching up the correct Wagobox with the corresponding Wago terminals. The classic wagobox is designed for the 773 push-in and 222 series lever terminals, but if you use the 222 terminals, then you quickly run out of space. The Wagobox 221-4 is designed for 221-4xx series lever terminals and is a better bet if you want/need lever terminals (if all your wiring is T&E then push-ins are ok, but push-ins aren't suitable for use with flex, whereas lever terminals are).

 

[RichTee]

Great thanks both.
I had a look on screwfix for wagos and I can only but like packs of 50 connectors so I was thinking of this instead?

https://www.screwfix.com/p/debox-2sl-in-line-junction-box/9858r

It state its MF so I assume thats good enough?

Thanks

 

[chivers67]

Use this RichTee, they're easy to use.

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https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/ASJ501.html

Though what you have posted are fine too, I think Tool station do Wagos in smaller packs https://www.toolstation.com/search?q=wago connectors

 

[333rocky333]

Use this RichTee, they're easy to use.

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https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/ASJ501.html

Though what you have posted are fine too, I think Tool station do Wagos in smaller packs https://www.toolstation.com/search?q=wago connectors

Only J803 and J804 are MF, that above needs to be accessible, so no good for the OP
Sorry Chivers

 

[JohnW2]

Only J803 and J804 are MF, that above needs to be accessible, so no good for the OP
Sorry Chivers

We haven't been told exactly what "in the ceiling" means in the OP's case.

What if a JB such as the ('non-MF') J501 illustrated by Chivers were 'accessible' through the hole accommodating a downlight (obviously after removing the downlight ). Would you consider that to be 'compliant'?

Kind Regards, John

 

[RichTee]

Thank you all! appreciate the help. The junction box would not even be accesible via the light hole. I went with the Debox in the end, those Wagos look a bit expensive. I may use those when I come to connect my lighting up though.

 

[333rocky333]

Only J803 and J804 are MF, that above needs to be accessible, so no good for the OP
Sorry Chivers

We haven't been told exactly what "in the ceiling" means in the OP's case.

What if a JB such as the ('non-MF') J501 illustrated by Chivers were 'accessible' through the hole accommodating a downlight (obviously after removing the downlight ). Would you consider that to be 'compliant'?

Kind Regards, John

Acceptable through a hole, yes thats what there designed for and were called downlighter boxes or something, however the op said in post 1 it was NOT accessible

 

[JohnW2]

Acceptable through a hole, yes thats what there designed for and were called downlighter boxes or something, however the op said in post 1 it was NOT accessible

Yes, I realise that's what he wrote, but I wasn't sure whether he realised that 'accessible through a hole' (after removal of the downlight) would probably count as 'accessible'.

Kind Regards, John