What is it with labour these days ?

[gasbanni]

It used to be clear that Labour represented the manual working classes, a rough sort of evaluation.

But now it seems to represent a type of middle class social justice warrior with idealogical dreams and no interest in the working man as he's so far removed from their day to day reality. Typically public sector types with secure cushioned from reality employment. ( yeah that is a generalisation ) but it seems to be the case.
And students studying for imitation degrees.

A customer told me recently of her sisters family in London all Corbyn supporters all living in a million pound plus properties.

That business in Sheffield where a councillor was deselected by momentum because he wasnt educated or militant enough for their liking.....oh dear.

Then you have the conservatives claiming to be the party of the working man .........something not countered by the labour party ..........

 

[SirGalahad]

What do Tories represent?

Fran Lebowitz

"It’s a shocking thing to realise people love their hatred more than they care about their own actual lives. The hatred – what is that about? It’s a fear of your own weakness.”

 

[SirGalahad]

Working man has benefited from cuts to education, legal etc?

Barrister blows whistle on 'broken legal system brought to its knees by cuts'

https://www.theguardian.com/law/201...le-on-broken-law-brought-to-its-knees-by-cuts

 

[Nozzle]

It's fair to say the tables have turned. Labour does not represent the working man any more. There was a time you could safely say the Tories only looked after the well heeled. You can read about it in the history books along with Lords of the manor and the Aristocracy. These days, the working man is attracted to conservative (small 'c') policies - work and you yourself see the reward. Though I'm certain Lords of Manors and The Aristocracy aren't yet voting red just yet. In the interrim, we have to contend with champagne socialism.

Nozzle

 

[SirGalahad]

It's fair to say the tables have turned. Labour does not represent the working man any more. There was a time you could safely say the Tories only looked after the well heeled. You can read about it in the history books along with Lords of the manor and the Aristocracy. These days, the working man is attracted to conservative (small 'c') policies - work and you yourself see the reward. Though I'm certain Lords of Manors and The Aristocracy aren't yet voting red just yet. In the interrim, we have to contend with champagne socialism.

Nozzle

So how has austerity and cuts helped the man in the street?

How has he benefited as the GDP has increased but wealth hasn't been shared more equitably.

 

[Nozzle]

Easy to criticise from a point of view supporting the opposition view, always is. The lashings of debt built up over the many years helps NO-ONE, be they working man, rich man, rich pensioner, poor pensioner, school leaver, nursery school child. The nursery school child in particular, as the debt problem does not resolve itself by ignoring it.

I know now you'll bring on some vacuous argument that money isn't real and it shouldn't be treated like a household debt. If you believe it, you're in the minority of the electorate - those that bother to get out and vote for ANY colour know that money IS real - either because they haven't got enough of it, because they don't earn any - or because they haven't got enough of it becuase the minimum wage is actually a maximum wage for the low skilled, or because they have a $hit load of it because "they control the capital". In any instance, money to these people is real enough.

For your reference, it is not my purpose in life to be answering your loaded questions.

Nozzle

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Only party to really do anything for ordinary people in recent times is UKIP.

 

[noseall]

Only party to really do anything for ordinary people in recent times is UKIP.

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Joke party.
Joke leadership.
Zero influence.
Zero power.
Ordinary people my arse.

 

[SammyInnit]

Labour does not represent the working man any more.

They do if you're a socialist worker.

 

[Nozzle]

They do if you're a socialist worker.

I wonder what they guy wearing the poncho does for a living.

Nozzle

 

[noseall]

I wonder what they guy wearing the poncho does for a living.

Nozzle

The same as you.

 

[Nozzle]

If he did the same as me, I'd know him from work. And I don't, therefore he doesn't.

Nozzle

 

[transam]

Apparently 95% of all MP's have some type of educational degree ? They were talking about it on the Radio the other day ?

There probably all out of touch with the real world, most or many ?? have only ever worked in politics or some such caper ??

 

[noseall]

If he did the same as me, I'd know him from work. And I don't, therefore he doesn't.

Perhaps he does the same as me.

 

[Nozzle]

Nah, I'm willing to bet there's no one else quite like you on the planet. You are so very special.

Nozzle