What's a country part and syphon?

[lmac73]

Hi our toilet won't flush and I know someone who's a plumber who popped in to have a look at it. He told me we need a country part and syphon and because I can't get to Plumb Centre during the week he reckons B & Q might have it. I've looked up both these websites but can't find anything with this name. I called the same plumber but he says he's only ever known it by that name. Does anyone know the correct name of this part please?

 

[Charnwood]

Syphon:

Country part:

Never heard of a country part.

 

[lmac73]

Lol maybe it would help if i explain what the problem is. The connecting hook has fell off the metal c shaped link and it seems it's disappeared into the syphon. Hope that makes sense. Thanks for the help, as you can guess I'm a novice

 

[denso13]

A country syphon refers to the height of it. It is shorter and therefore needs no overflow as it runs into the WC bowl when overflowing. Going out of fashion as flush valves are now more common.

For example the 7½" one here http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toilet-Cistern-Syphon-Siphon-7-1-2-8-9-9-1-2-/250720750257

 

[Charnwood]

Forget the syphon, fit a Fluidmaster flapper valve.
Dual flush. Very little to go wrong, easy to repair in the rare event it does.

http://www.diy.com/nav/fix/plumbing...ushbutton-Kit-507UKK074-9270904?skuId=9280604

 

[lmac73]

denso13 that's great thanks. He did say when he looked in the cistern that the overflow wasn't connected to anything. We've not long bought this house and the bathroom suite is old, hoping to replace it all next year but meantime we'll try and fix it ourselves

 

[Charnwood]

A country syphon refers to the height of it. It is shorter and therefore needs no overflow

Evey day's a school day.

 

[lmac73]

This might be a silly question but is It necessary to drain the cistern before changing the syphon?

 

[denso13]

Yes, flush out as much as possible then use a cloth/sponge for the rest.

 

[dreadnoughtheating]

And then there's the rusted 'pull down' bolts and wing nuts to get over....

And the donut washer

And the old fibre washer on the inlet valve connection that just will not hold 100%

Best of British to you.

DH

 

[lmac73]

Sounds like a nightmare. My plumber pal made It sound pretty simple. He told me to spray the wing nuts with WHAT to loosen them up first which I've done. Hopefully will get the part from B&Q tomorrow night & hubby will have a go.

 

[lmac73]

Charnwood I'll have a look at that link. Thanks very much. Plumber friend has offered to help If any issues but got the impression he would prefer not to so hopefully something we could do.

 

[lmac73]

Oops just realised I meant to say plumber said spray the wing nuts with WD40. Predictive text