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So, is it case of no alternative, or are the masses that vote them in, worthy of the contempt they get treated with.
When will it stop?
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Keep them uneducated, fearful and unhealthy and you can get them to vote for their own executioner.
How many on here who support cuts to the services either they themselves or their relatives use but defend large corps avoiding tax.
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No one defends large corporations avoiding tax, it's just we can change the govenment, but not the HMRC bosses who seem to be a law unto themselves.
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He can push all he likes, but no one is going to support a back stabber, not even one that gets scrubbed clean.
Well, the Government makes the rules.
When will people realise that the tax system is purposely designed so that the wealthy CAN do these things?
Any apparent protestation from those in power is just a sop.
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No it isn't. It's how the HMRC decide to "handle" the companies tax affairs. And it's funny how many of these tax guys, then end up with lucrative jobs in the private sector afterwards. The government is too frightened to bring the HMRC to heel. The apparent protestations from those in power, are because they're weak and pathetic - both parties mind you.
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HMRC is a government department. The govt can change or sack the boss. It makes the laws and regulations which HMRC is obliged to enforce.
If the law says that billionaires with businesses in the UK don't have to pay UK tax, it's the government that set those laws.
Maybe when the current government collapses (not long to go now) the next one will be less billionaire-friendly. We only need them to pay fair taxes, just like I do, local businesses do, and perhaps you do too.
It's all Blairs', Merkels', Clintons' fault? No mention of Trump, Bush or Cameron? Incredible rant.
Also missed off atrocities committed by Fidel Castro, somebody admired by you know who, the man that claims to be centre ground, but is actually sonebody that at heart believes the socialist model.
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It will be interesting to compare TM's report, (due out anytime now "Theresa May vows to act on race review findings" see below), with vinty's comment about US society. We already know that discrimination and prejudice in US is worse and more institutional than in UK. So any findings in TM's report could probably be multiplied for any investigation/findings/report that might be conducted in US.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-41477821
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The poster was referring neo liberalism and now you use Fidel Castro to make a point about Corbyn who has not governed.
More failed logic.
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Yes it does, then leaves the HMRC to determine how they are interpreted. Recent case in point, is the they have now determined that that rapid response police officers who take their car home from work (so they can go straight to an incident) will now be taxed at the business perk rate of £5K per annum rather than just the personal use rate that was originally charged. As to business's, their accountants will argue that certain expenses etc should be allowed, and the HMRC argue back that they aren't, or at least they should, yet don't.
So you are telling me that the government has passed a law which says people should be taxed for company vehicles taken home.
And you are saying that the government should have included exceptions for people such as police officers, but didn't.
Who is responsible for the law that you are complaining about?
The government.
And you are saying that the government should have included exceptions for people such as police officers, but didn't.
Who is responsible for the law that you are complaining about?
The government.
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Yes they have, as you well know.
There are exceptions for company vehicles that allow only private mileage to be charged for, as I'm sure you also know. And this is how they were originaly taxed, so why the change of attitide on the HMRCs part. In being taxed for a company vehicle, you have the right to choose the vehicle you want, and then take the hit on the tax, but the rapid response vehicles have to be of a high specification, so they are now being charged for a situation that they have no control over.
Now where did I say (please show examples) that I was complaining about the law. I've tried to show you that it's the HMRCs interpretation of the law that is the issue, and if you weren't so bent on demonising bilionaires that evade tax, you would possibly see what I was getting at.
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