Where would you advise fitting an upstairs toilet ?

[Plrm6]

Hey there,

Hoping to gather some opinions as we are a bit stuck to know what our best option is. We brought a two bed house which we need to make a three bed for space for our childrens’ rooms. At the moment we are thinking to move the bathroom downstairs into the conservatory extension area to the back of the kitchen to then have space for the third bedroom upstairs. We are thinking if at all possible we would like to have an upstairs toilet but hope to seek advice and opinions on where may be best. A builder has said we could keep the toilet in the same location but build a sectioned off room but this would eat into the bedroom space of what is already a small room and would mean the toilet would be at the end of a corridor type of space and the top of the stairs which seems not quite right. Mostly not sure about taking that space there as it would leave a very small box room. Or they suggested we could take a little space from the master bedroom and upstairs cupboard but this would then need to be a macerator system as not easy to otherwise do.

Hope to ask others opinions on what you would choose or if any other ideas would love to know ! We have two young children and so hoping to retain an upstairs toilet for accessibility.

 

[CountryFan]

what’s behind that door near the stairs?

 

[Mottie]

Our toilet was downstairs when I was a child and it was outside. We got by using one of these:

If you were really posh, you had one in each bedroom.

 

[trojanhawrs]

Buy bunk beds.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Hope to ask others opinions on what you would choose or if any other ideas would love to know ! We have two young children and so hoping to retain an upstairs toilet for accessibility.

Three possibilities -

1 partition bedroom 2 off, and add an extra door on the landing area, to enable access to bedroom 2, and the toilet.

2 A long partition to the LHS of the present bathroom, plus an extra access door from the landing, assuming there is room for two doors.

3. That tiny cupboard space, adjacent to bedroom 1, could be widened, new partition built pinching space from bedroom 1, to allow for a toilet in there.

Much will depend on soil pipe runs.

 

[RandomGrinch]

I have a similar sized and layed out terrace.
I have had exactly the same thoughts, should I gain another child!
My nextdoor neighbours both have three beds with the bathroom downstairs.

The solution I had in my head, was to retain the existing layout - ultimately saving up for a loft conversion.

But when they're still relatively young - Bedroom two becomes the master, and bedroom one is (temporarily) split by a 'Room divider bunk bed' - something like...

 

[Plrm6]

what’s behind that door near the stairs?

Hey- downstairs is an under stairs cupboard and upstairs it’s currently a little storage cupboard but we are ok to lose this if it meant we could figure out this situation

 

[Plrm6]

Three possibilities -

1 partition bedroom 2 off, and add an extra door on the landing area, to enable access to bedroom 2, and the toilet.

2 A long partition to the LHS of the present bathroom, plus an extra access door from the landing, assuming there is room for two doors.

3. That tiny cupboard space, adjacent to bedroom 1, could be widened, new partition built pinching space from bedroom 1, to allow for a toilet in there.

Much will depend on soil pipe runs.

Thanks for the advice- if doing option 3 which I think could be best it means we would have to have a macerator apparently as the soil pipe runs into the back of the house out behind the toilet in the current location. Just seem to read negative feedback on macerators so a little off putting

 

[CountryFan]

Hey- downstairs is an under stairs cupboard and upstairs it’s currently a little storage cupboard but we are ok to lose this if it meant we could figure out this situation

Do you have anyone the other side of the wall?

 

[Plrm6]

Do you have anyone’s the other side of the wall?

Yes that wall is a party wall onto our neighbour, the other side of the house is just our wall as end of terrace on the opposite side of the house to the staircase

 

[Hugh Jaleak]

Have spent a lot of time musing over whether to do the same/similar in my house, in the end, didnt need to, but will offer my thoughts.

The Cupboard in the existing bathroom, what's in there? Thinking that could possibly be used, (widened slightly if necessary), to house a WC and Hand Basin. Would take a little space from the bedroom, but still leave a usable room I'd think? Soil pipe then straight through the wall, and down.

I'd avoid a Macerator, especially with children, it would probably struggle.

 

[Plrm6]

Have spent a lot of time musing over whether to do the same/similar in my house, in the end, didnt need to, but will offer my thoughts.

The Cupboard in the existing bathroom, what's in there? Thinking that could possibly be used, (widened slightly if necessary), to house a WC and Hand Basin. Would take a little space from the bedroom, but still leave a usable room I'd think? Soil pipe then straight through the wall, and down.

I'd avoid a Macerator, especially with children, it would probably struggle.

Thanks for this idea-will look into this- not sure on how costly it would be to move the toilet in this way and add sink etc but one would like to consider

 

[CountryFan]

Maybe just keep it where it is, relocate the basin and just have as a small WC?

 

[JohnD]

Where to put it?

Close to the soil pipe.

Avoid long pipe runs, especially if horizontal or small bore.

Avoid poo-mincers.

Your plan diagram suggests the house is quite old. Is the soil pipe iron or plastic? Does it run inside the house or bolted to the outside wall?

Where do the drains run? ( look for manhole covers)

 

[Londoner2]

I would never install a toilet in a room witout a window, also pulled out of buying a house with no windows in toilerts.