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Where's the self responsibility (are these folk thick?)


Just put him on ignore if you don't want to read what he writes - the only time you'll even know that he's posted is when someone quotes him, and then all you see is something like this:

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If you bother to pay attention to post numbers you might twig that someone you are ignoring must have posted because of the missing ones:

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But that's it.
 
A massive percentage of what we use everyday comes from china.
The rest is from other countries on the other side of the world.
But that doesn’t mean the products, mentioned by diy_fun_uk that apparently caused harm and weren’t fit for use were from China.
Ever heard of examples?
If you want we can talk exclusively of the substances sold on tik tok.
Talking about why diy_fun_uk was criticising the people who were targeted by these products or talking about, which should’ve been done before, about the people behind it who are making and delivering the products?
We're enslaved and we must bend over to china otherwise they can destroy us in a week.
How so?

That still doesn’t give a rationale reason why diy_fun_uk was criticising the people who were targeted by the products and not criticising the people who were delivering them.
I don't know what you asked.
This is the second time.
What was your question?
Or is it a secret?
It really is not a secret.

You would have to figure it out by looking back at this thread.

I merely CBA to navigate back to the first or second page, save my original draft, quote it and make sure it displays uniformly.

And especially when I’m composing this on a phone.
 
Just put him on ignore if you don't want to read what he writes - the only time you'll even know that he's posted is when someone quotes him, and then all you see is something like this:

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If you bother to pay attention to post numbers you might twig that someone you are ignoring must have posted because of the missing ones:

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But that's it.
A familiar name greets us.

If you got this far, and I’m sure you did, because if you had the time to screenshot, compose a discussion and circle areas of the screen, you certainly have the time to read this.

I know you do.

But the sole reason you ignored me is quite unreasonable and nothing warranted it.

It all started when you asked why Torx screws are used along with the shower thread which was created by diy_fun_uk. I provided a thorough, detailed explanation, and then you decided to ignore me purely because of my supposed “contrary” position.

And if you think about it, who was the person who invited you to this forum?

But anyway.

It’s not the content of my posts that diy_fun_uk doesn’t want to read - it’s that he cannot keep up with replies that are longer than his preferred one liner replies (which are not that long, really, except perhaps to someone like him).

He admitted the above himself, and then proceeded to label me as a troll.

So there you have it.
 
I wrote: We're enslaved and we must bend over to china otherwise they can destroy us in a week.
And you asked:
By stopping all export.
If we didn't get any Chinese products for a week we would be totally ****ed.
Are you going to dispute this?
Look around you.
It really is not a secret.

You would have to figure it out by looking back at this thread.

I merely CBA to navigate back to the first or second page, save my original draft, quote it and make sure it displays uniformly.

And especially when I’m composing this on a phone.
So it's a secret.
Or you're trolling as usual.
Nothing you write makes sense to anybody.
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
I wrote: We're enslaved and we must bend over to china otherwise they can destroy us in a week.
And you asked:

By stopping all export.
No, see, that’s not what I meant at all, and and it’s honestly a bit telling that you read it that way. When I said “How so?”, I was very clearly asking how they destroy us, the “destroy” part not how we stop getting products from them.

That’s basic comprehension.

You took it like I was asking about the supply chain mechanics, when what I actually said was about the impact, the how they destroy us thing, which is not the same question.

English has nuance, you know.

You can explain all you like about them stopping exports and us not getting Chinese goods for a week, but that doesn’t answer what I asked. My question wasn’t “How do they stop sending stuff?” it was “How does that destroy us permanently?” There’s a pretty big difference between those two things. I was literally challenging the word destroy, not asking for a step by step of trade logistics. You seem to have just latched onto one part of what I said and ignored the actual meaning.

And this is exactly what I mean when I talk about comprehension.

People read one word,

decide what they think you meant,

and then charge off explaining something completely different.

You’ve done the equivalent of answering a question I didn’t ask. If you’d actually taken two seconds to read what I said, you’d realise “How so?” was me calling out the exaggeration, not begging for an explanation of how imports work.

I’ll spell it out. If someone says, “China could destroy us in a week,” and I reply “How so?”, I’m clearly asking, “How, exactly, would they manage to destroy us?” It’s an invitation to justify that ridiculous claim. It’s not me saying, “Please explain how containers stop arriving.”

See the difference?

So, to be clear you explained differently. You didn’t answer my How so? in the context I meant it. I wasn’t asking about trade flows, I was asking about your logic.

It’s not me misunderstanding, it’s you answering the wrong question. Bit of reading comprehension, that’s all.

But, currently, it really doesn't matter if it would destroy us if we stopped receiving goods from China.
So it's a secret.
Or you're trolling as usual.

:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
It looks like you don't know the real meaning behind trolling too.

It's contagious.
Let's say you buy a product/service from a legitimate business and it turns out to be something else e.g. counterfeit and/or dangerous. In that scenario you have my sympathy.
Are these folk thick? Tbh I have zero sympathy for them. Where's the self responsibility?
You’re saying you have sympathy for consumers when they buy from legitimate businesses, but why is there so little or no sympathy for the systemic failures that allow dangerous products to enter the market in the first place?
So the problem is that people are stupid, not that anyone is selling dangerous products to them?
Should we really applaud the naive because they didn’t read a warning label on something that literally could kill them? Or should we focus on asking why there are zero safeguards?
And who exactly is responsible when these products make it to market without proper checks? Should we blame the consumer, or do we finally start holding the platforms and sellers accountable for the harm they’re knowingly enabling?
I get it, people should be more cautious buying stuff online, but shouldn't we also ask why there's no proper system in place to stop dangerous stuff from getting through?
Which generated,
This doesn't even make sense. Why would I have sympathy for systemic failures?

Unless someone is mentally challenged, I have zero sympathy for them if they buy stuff to ingest, slap on their skin/teeth, or inject when they know little to nothing about the 'company' or individual selling the stuff, or indeed the product itself.

I have sympathy with this person:

I bought a car from an established car dealership and found out it has outstanding finance on it. The dealer is arguing the point so I'll need to take them to court.

I have zero sympathy with this person:

I bought a car last month from someone I don't know in the Asda car park at 10pm. Found out it has outstanding finance on it. I can't trace the seller cause they've used a burner phone and I paid them in cash.
Which then was followed with my post
If you really can have sympathy for someone being misled by a licensed car dealership, where the system failed them, why can’t you have sympathy for someone if they were misled by an online seller, where the system also fails them every day?
How is that different from the Asda car park example other than the medium? Isn’t it exactly the same principle system fails, buyer suffers, consequences follow.

So tell me, if a system failing you at a car dealership deserves sympathy, why does a system failing you online deserve nothing at all?
First he says it “didn’t make sense,” which, fine - if he didn’t understand, he could’ve just asked what I meant. But the moment someone points out what I was actually saying, suddenly I’m a troll.

Convenient, isn’t it?

When he can’t follow the conversation, it’s my fault for not writing clearly enough, and when someone shows him he’s misread it, it turns into “you’re just trolling.”

Which then, later on, you came up and started with the whole China thing, as if that somehow explained everything that came before.

It didn’t.

But you’ve trapped yourself in a logic loop, haven’t you?

Stopping imports from China doesn’t automatically mean those products vanish overnight.

Saying “everything nearby is made in China” doesn’t magically turn the the things diy_fun_uk mentioned into Chinese made goods.
 
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No, see, that’s not what I meant at all, and and it’s honestly a bit telling that you read it that way. When I said “How so?”, I was very clearly asking how they destroy us, the “destroy” part not how we stop getting products from them.

That’s basic comprehension.

You took it like I was asking about the supply chain mechanics, when what I actually said was about the impact, the how they destroy us thing, which is not the same question.

English has nuance, you know.

You can explain all you like about them stopping exports and us not getting Chinese goods for a week, but that doesn’t answer what I asked. My question wasn’t “How do they stop sending stuff?” it was “How does that destroy us permanently?” There’s a pretty big difference between those two things. I was literally challenging the word destroy, not asking for a step by step of trade logistics. You seem to have just latched onto one part of what I said and ignored the actual meaning.

And this is exactly what I mean when I talk about comprehension.

People read one word,

decide what they think you meant,

and then charge off explaining something completely different.

You’ve done the equivalent of answering a question I didn’t ask. If you’d actually taken two seconds to read what I said, you’d realise “How so?” was me calling out the exaggeration, not begging for an explanation of how imports work.

I’ll spell it out. If someone says, “China could destroy us in a week,” and I reply “How so?”, I’m clearly asking, “How, exactly, would they manage to destroy us?” It’s an invitation to justify that ridiculous claim. It’s not me saying, “Please explain how containers stop arriving.”

See the difference?

So, to be clear you explained differently. You didn’t answer my How so? in the context I meant it. I wasn’t asking about trade flows, I was asking about your logic.

It’s not me misunderstanding, it’s you answering the wrong question. Bit of reading comprehension, that’s all.

But, currently, it really doesn't matter if it would destroy us if we stopped receiving goods from China.

It looks like you don't know the real meaning behind trolling too.

It's contagious.







Which generated,

Which then was followed with my post


First he says it “didn’t make sense,” which, fine - if he didn’t understand, he could’ve just asked what I meant. But the moment someone points out what I was actually saying, suddenly I’m a troll.

Convenient, isn’t it?

When he can’t follow the conversation, it’s my fault for not writing clearly enough, and when someone shows him he’s misread it, it turns into “you’re just trolling.”

Which then, later on, you came up and started with the whole China thing, as if that somehow explained everything that came before.

It didn’t.

But you’ve trapped yourself in a logic loop, haven’t you?

Stopping imports from China doesn’t automatically mean those products vanish overnight.

Saying “everything nearby is made in China” doesn’t magically turn the the things diy_fun_uk mentioned into Chinese made goods.
So you're trolling.
And there's nothing worse than a troll who's also thick.
I thought Himmy had set the standard very high, but you smashed it.
Well done.
 
So you're trolling.
Quote any part of what I said constitutes to trolling, please.
And there's nothing worse than a troll who's also thick.
Quote any part of what I said or implied that gave an impression of me being thick, please.
I thought Himmy had set the standard very high, but you smashed it.
I do not know "Himmy" and I do not know why you're trying to compare him/her to me.
Well done.
Thanks for confirming the suspicion I had about you.
 
Let's say you buy a product/service from a legitimate business and it turns out to be something else e.g. counterfeit and/or dangerous. In that scenario you have my sympathy.

However, a couple of weeks back there was a piece on the news about fake weight loss jabs. One woman was giving her sob story about the jabs she'd bought. Caused her health issues, issues that could have been serious.

Where did she buy the jabs? She saw a TikTok advert from someone she didn't know selling jabs. She ordered them. They arrived in a brown envelope with nothing else i.e. no instructions, nothing.

She still used them!!!

And earlier today there was a news piece about the dangers of using unlicensed teeth whitening products that contain dangerously high levels of bleach, in some cases 50%+. However, again, these products are being sold over social media, with no attempt to hide the fact they contain high bleach levels. Actually this is often promoted as a positive e.g. Extreme Bleaching! So the news prog bought some from a 'beautician' on her doorstep. Got them home, again nothing to indicate how to use, nothing.

However, people are buying and using them!!! And then they're wondering why their teeth are in pain or falling out!

Are these folk thick? Tbh I have zero sympathy for them. Where's the self responsibility?
Yes, they're thick.
That doesn't mean unintelligent, they just prefer not to try to think.
Common sense isn't so common.
 
Common sense is down the collective toilet imho

All this transsexual nonsense for starters

Dealing with organisations employing people reading from a script / devoid of common sense in fact if they displayed any they probably would not have got the job in the first place

Thames water bunch of fruit cakes / local councils / traffic wardens employed by councils

Etc etc
 
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