Which pump do I need for new pond

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Hi Folks ,
I am constructing a pond and am a little confused by the overwhelming amount of pumps and filters available . The pond will be two tier totaling 4500 litres . I hope to have the usual goldfish and maybe a few koi .

The pond will be a formal design incorporated into a raised deck area . If I need a filter , I want it buried below the level of the decking out of the way . (do I need a pressurised system)

Could anyone reccommend a suitable , reasonably priced ,pump and filter system for me please .
 
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Not enough info to recommend things really but some thoughts -

You need the pump to circulate the water at a rate dependent on (typically) the amount of fish it contains. Normally you'd want to circulate the water in about 2 hours for a modest amount of fish. The amount of water a pump handles depends on the height it needs to raise it. Typically for your 2 tiers you'd need to raise it no more than 1 metre or a good bit less so for your 1000 gallon pond you need a circulation of around 500 gallons per hour at a head of 1 metre. Manufacturers are pretty optimistic and there are losses in the piping and when the filter is dirty so somewhere around 800 gallons/hour nominal would be a good target. Not too much more or the water will rush round too much. Note that the distance raised is measured from the surface of the pool it is pumped from to the highest point in the system no matter where the pump or filter are.

There are umpteen pump makes on the market. I always use Oase who are not cheap but are definitely long-lived and not prone to much bother. You need a pump which won't block easily. A possibly suitable one is the 'Oase Aquamax Eco Start 5500'. See here http://www.aquatix-2u.co.uk/acatalog/oase_aquamax_eco_start_filter_pumps.html for instance.

If you want the filter outlet to be below the highest water level then yes it will need to be a pressurised one. If you are having fish (and probably in any case) you want one with a UV lamp to help keep the algae etc. down. The pressurised ones are all much too small for the volume of water they can supposedly filter so you really want to get one which is about twice as big as the blurb recommends (and even then it will be too small). Possible makes are Hozelock or Fishmate - you could think about a 'Fish Mate Powerclenz 15000'. See here http://www.aquatix-2u.co.uk/acatalog/fish_mate_powerclenz_pond_filters.html for instance. I would really recommend an oversize one to reduce maintenance but they're much more expensive of course.

You can get cheaper ones which are similar to both the above. In my exerience pond stuff like so many other things doesn't repay cheapness.

Other thoughts:
The filter will need cleaning regularly so it needs to be accessible. Some (like the above) have semi-automated cleaning mechanisms which work after a fashion but you should reckon on needing to open things up and clean out at least every 2-3 months. Note that the pressurised filters are usually much smaller than an 'equivalent' non-pressurised one and gunge up proportionally often. They're more awkward to clean out too.
If you want any sort of fountain (I wouldn't because it will forever need cleaning out) it is very difficult to achieve with the same pump used to drive the filter.
If it looks or sounds Chinese run away. Sadly most of the filters including the above are usually Chinese made (and Oase is really too expensive).
Fish - particularly Koi - grow quickly.
 
Hi again...Robert does mention something that I forgot and that is a UV sterilizer, we use a separate external one and they are very effective at controlling algae and keeping your fish healthy.
With regard to the size of fish....we have never paid more than a few pounds for our fish and they all started off tiny, but as you saw in my photos we now have some nice large koi....they really are quite enormous.
 
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I would opt for a bottom drain system. Easier to get to the return pump for cleaning and everything can be hidden.

Yes i second that.
I use a bottom drain system running 3 bottom drains on 4" pipework and a 4 bay filter with vortex with waste draining straight into the main sewer drain, Maintenance is so much easier and keeps the pond alot clearer all yr round
 
If you want a decent pump, go with Superfish, very cheap to run and well built pumps.

Dont buy anything pond related from a garden centre...buy from a koi/pond specialist or online.

Have a look at the wattage on the pumps, some pumps will have roughly the same flow but use a lot more power.

Ideally you want a bottom drain (pref with an air diffuser) and gravity feed, that way you only pump clean water back to the pond. Pump fed will create lots of fines. This is more expensive but a must if you want good filtration.

There are lots of different types of filters you could buy. For your pond size I would go with a multi bay, maybe a vortex too, but only if gravity fed. You can never have too much filtration! and stay away from the black box filters that promise to filter x amount of litres......they are rubbish!

I have a nexus filter on my bottom drains, and an easypod on my skimmer set up.

Try ebay, there are lots of pumps and filters on there for sale.
 

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