Which shower pump ?

[HERTS P&D]

Fit a Stuart Turner pump next to the cylinder and pump everything apart from the cold kitchen tap, you can put a timer on the plug so that it only comes on between 6am to 11pm. They are very quiet.

Andy

 

[hotxbun]

Countryfan, I've said why. I'm using their approved plumber. He's done a survey, I'm waiting for his report. Then once he fits it, any problems - it's over to them !

After already more than a month, I cannot start again from scratch. Time is of the essence.

My question is - what suitable Salamander pump is quiet enough to run from a kid's bedroom that doesn't affect all the other taps in the house + loo ?

 

[HERTS P&D]

My question is - what suitable Salamander pump is quiet enough to run from a kid's bedroom that doesn't affect all the other taps in the house + loo ?

Doesn't you approved plumber know the answer?

Andy

 

[CountryFan]

Doesn't you approved plumber know the answer?

Andy

Or the people who make them!

 

[CountryFan]

Countryfan, I've said why. I'm using their approved plumber. He's done a survey, I'm waiting for his report. Then once he fits it, any problems - it's over to them !

I see, my apologies, thought you were just after a decent pump which had been recommended twice.

 

[hotxbun]

Doesn't you approved plumber know the answer?

Andy

He wants to fit an RP that affects everything else.

Or the people who make them!

They told me to get the CT60BU, which the surveyor said is too noisy. I will call them again Monday but I just thought I might get a heads up here beforehand as I'm not confident they'll advise me properly when they already haven't.

And maybe in future I'll consider a Stuart Turner if *I* ever need one myself, but for now I have to stick with Salamander this time. It has to be sorted ASAP, & starting again will only prolong it even more. As it is, the Salamander guy isn't going to be available to fit it for [more] WEEKS !

Ok, I should've included that in the title, but this is driving me INSANE, it's literally taken over my life ! I've never used used this forum before & thought I might get a straight forward answer, I never intended this to be a debate ! As is, this whole thread has been another complete waste of time too. Yes, I'm upset, but thanks to anyone who actually tried to be helpful.

 

[CountryFan]

And maybe in future I'll consider a Stuart Turner if *I* ever need one myself, but for now I have to stick with Salamander this time. It has to be sorted ASAP, & starting again will only prolong it even more. As it is, the Salamander guy isn't going to be available to fit it for [more] WEEKS !

I’m slightly confused now, if it’s going to be weeks, you don’t know how long it wouldn’t be to start again?

I've never used used this forum before & thought I might get a straight forward answer, I never intended this to be a debate !

Sorry you feel that way, but I don’t see it as a debate, we just need answers and straightforward information.

As is, this whole thread has been another complete waste of time too. Yes, I'm upset, but thanks to anyone who actually tried to be helpful.

Not really as you now know Salamander aren’t worth their salt and StuartTurner are a way forward if/when the Salamander fails.

 

[trojanhawrs]

He wants to fit an RP that affects everything else.


They told me to get the CT60BU, which the surveyor said is too noisy. I will call them again Monday but I just thought I might get a heads up here beforehand as I'm not confident they'll advise me properly when they already haven't.

I think you're confusing yourself. Either of these options the plumber intends to fit by the hot water cylinder, therefore presumably boosting the hot water main as a whole. If you only want the pressure to the shower/bath boosted, then it pretty much needs to be an under bath pump, no?
Now, if salamander are telling you they don't do any pumps suitable for under the bath, what are you actually asking?

They do say on their website that if you get a litre of water from your taps in under 30 seconds (without pump) it should be suitable for a positive pressure pump, in which case I would say they should be standing by their warranty. Is your hot water cylinder on the same floor as your bathroom?

 

[Madrab]

Couple of questions first.

1) Is the pump, when under the bath, within 5m (22mm pipe length) of the HW cylinder? - if so then according to Salamander it can quite happily live under the bath
2) who suggested it must be fed via an S Flange? - Whilst it is best practice, Salamander themselves state 2 different connection scenarios, one is from a flange the other from the HW supply after the vent.


Not sure why it seems that the Salamander accredited installer isn't giving you the correct information or at least giving the full picture

 

[hotxbun]

For what it's worth, I've received this today. Does it help ?

 

[trojanhawrs]

Seems very thorough honestly. I'd say you have 3 options.
1. Accept the quote and live with your taps being pumped, what are your reservations with this?
2. Ask the plumber to find a solution for just the bath and the shower, this will involve a new pipe being run from cylinder to bathroom though and likely damage to wall/floor coverings
3. Engage another plumber for a solution, other pump manufacturers may not have such stringent install requirements - good chance it wouldn't be guaranteed though

 

[hotxbun]

1. Noise, particularly in a bedroom, especially overnight. And the tenant's just suggested that could affect when I com to sell.

2. I've asked, waiting on a reply but I'm guessing it'll be WAY more expensive than it already will be, plus being - presumably - a bigger job, would delay scheduling it.

3. It HAS to be guaranteed, this is why I've gone this route. Having said that I've been in touch with 6 other Which trusted traders. 1 has replied & will want to visit to quote, another delay though have sent them those photos. Understandable they'd want to see for themselves I s'pose.

 

[hotxbun]

Tenants have asked if a Flow Flex might be a possibility. Does anyone have any experience with them, could it work ?
https://share.google/yNUr90r2SlgrOZEny

 

[trojanhawrs]

Tenants have asked if a Flow Flex might be a possibility. Does anyone have any experience with them, could it work ?
https://share.google/yNUr90r2SlgrOZEny

I don't, I've seen @Madrab mention them in a recent thread so I assume they're good in some circumstances.

However, your current under bath pump is twin ended (hot and cold), so you would need a 2 of these inline pumps connected together. They're also centrifugal which typically don't cope with air ingress as well as regenerative pumps (your ct75 that shat itself is a regenerative pump).

If you've decided you don't care about the guarantee anymore, get a plumber to fit a stuart turner pump and hope for the best?

 

[hotxbun]

I noticed the 1st prerequisite is a 210 litre hot water tank, & it's capacity is about the only thing the surveyor didn't put in his report ! If the cold water tank's too small, & the thermostat on the hot water cylinder's about a foot to high, what's the chances that would be insufficient too !! probably a non starter

Much as I'd love a guarantee & not have to even think about more problems in the next 3 years, we've gone beyond that now. It's an "incidental" fgs, I've never needed a pump any house I've lived at since, but it's taken over my life now, worse still for the tenants. I may well have to look into a Stuart Turner on Monday. I just need this sorting, once & for all !