I want to know if anyone has experience of changing the locks on their own. Could any one tell me if the door lock is a nightlatch and if I should buy a 60mm replacement Yale latch. I already bought one and it didn’t fit - can anyone identify what type of night latch is this particular one. Could someone please help me?
Yale night latch help
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What did you buy? Are you keeping same lock barrel or completely new ( new keys)?
yes it is a nightlatch
measure the distance from the edge of the door to the centre of they keyhole. It is most often 40mm or 60mm. But there are a few 50mm ones around.
You don't measure the case of the lock to find 60mm, the lock case will be bigger.
Please show us photos of your new one so we can understand why it doesn't fit.
Why didn't it fit?
Is it a rented room in a HMO?
What is the thickness of the door? usually 35mm or 44mm.
measure the distance from the edge of the door to the centre of they keyhole. It is most often 40mm or 60mm. But there are a few 50mm ones around.
You don't measure the case of the lock to find 60mm, the lock case will be bigger.
Please show us photos of your new one so we can understand why it doesn't fit.
Why didn't it fit?
Is it a rented room in a HMO?
What is the thickness of the door? usually 35mm or 44mm.
Thanks. I'm buying completely new. Bought Yale British Standard Maximum Security 60mm Nightlatch (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Yale-Standard-Security-Nightlatch-External/dp/B004J33YJS) . Sorry, should have mentioned this is a victorian terraced house and the main door lock. I measured the edge of the door to the centre of the keyhole - it is 60 mm. Thickness of the door is around 45mm.
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It should fit. Why do you say it didn't?
You will need to drill new holes for the screws and escutcheon. have you got a drill and a sharp chisel?
see https://images-eu.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81okxpKCqvS.pdf
You will need to drill new holes for the screws and escutcheon. have you got a drill and a sharp chisel?
see https://images-eu.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81okxpKCqvS.pdf
yes, that's true. Your new lock is a British Standard which is very strong, and has upgraded fittings.
But if you have, and can use, a drill and chisel, the new one will fit.
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Do you know anyone who does? You need a careful and experienced person to do a neat job, but it is straightforward for a person who can do woodwork.
If you have to hire a carpenter (no need for a locksmith) I don't know what it would cost. Possibly their minimum charge.
BTW "24 hour locksmiths" who advertise widely are notorious for high charges.
p.s.
A British Standard lock, like the one you have, will probably meet the requirements of your household insurance. A cheaper, weaker one will will be easier to fit but almost certainly won't.
is there any sign of another lock having been fitted to the door, especially a mortice lock?
But if you have, and can use, a drill and chisel, the new one will fit.
Edit
Do you know anyone who does? You need a careful and experienced person to do a neat job, but it is straightforward for a person who can do woodwork.
If you have to hire a carpenter (no need for a locksmith) I don't know what it would cost. Possibly their minimum charge.
BTW "24 hour locksmiths" who advertise widely are notorious for high charges.
p.s.
A British Standard lock, like the one you have, will probably meet the requirements of your household insurance. A cheaper, weaker one will will be easier to fit but almost certainly won't.
is there any sign of another lock having been fitted to the door, especially a mortice lock?
I don't know if Yale still make the same model that you already have. There are nightatches that don't have the big armoured escutcheon for the cylinder, but they usually have a more modern and larger "keep" that goes on the frame (this is the part that usually fails if someone kicks or barges the door) so they would need chisel work and new screws.
is there any sign of another lock having been fitted to the door, usually a mortice lock at about waist height?
If you have just moved in, and want new keys, you could swap just the cylinder of your existing lock very easily, and the old keys won't open it.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/era-replacement-rim-cylinder-polished-chrome-33mm/8047t
is there any sign of another lock having been fitted to the door, usually a mortice lock at about waist height?
If you have just moved in, and want new keys, you could swap just the cylinder of your existing lock very easily, and the old keys won't open it.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/era-replacement-rim-cylinder-polished-chrome-33mm/8047t
Is this one the same?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YALE-P-1...322851&hash=item2f2ed57fe2:g:lcQAAOSw52Jcq7U9
it's a model P1
https://www.ironmongerydirect.co.uk/search?SearchText=yale+p1
Once you know the part number, you may find one cheap on ebay.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_...ouble+nightlatch+-traditional&_sacat=0&_oac=1
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YALE-P-1...322851&hash=item2f2ed57fe2:g:lcQAAOSw52Jcq7U9
it's a model P1
https://www.ironmongerydirect.co.uk/search?SearchText=yale+p1
Once you know the part number, you may find one cheap on ebay.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_...ouble+nightlatch+-traditional&_sacat=0&_oac=1
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