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Isn't it time to get this sorted?
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Fairly straighforward as I can see it.
If you carry a knife, you go away for a min of 1 year. No exceptions. If you use a knife, you get a min of 5 years. No exceptions.
Increase stop and search, including random unnanounced screenings at bus stops/train stations.
Sooner or later everyone who is in with the wrong crowd will know someone who has been put away for carrying a weapon. This will make many of them think twice next time they go out tooled up.
The main problems with these suggestions are:
1) Cushty lifestyle in prison. (TV, smuggled mobiles and drugs, catch up with old mates and gang members etc.)
2) The government doesn't want to spend the money to build prisons and keep the public safe.
They could probably save a few quid by taking away the TV's and other 'luxuries' the cons get given. I also reckon that cons should be randomly shipped to prisons all over the country. So they can't mingle with their local mob.
If you carry a knife, you go away for a min of 1 year. No exceptions. If you use a knife, you get a min of 5 years. No exceptions.
Increase stop and search, including random unnanounced screenings at bus stops/train stations.
Sooner or later everyone who is in with the wrong crowd will know someone who has been put away for carrying a weapon. This will make many of them think twice next time they go out tooled up.
The main problems with these suggestions are:
1) Cushty lifestyle in prison. (TV, smuggled mobiles and drugs, catch up with old mates and gang members etc.)
2) The government doesn't want to spend the money to build prisons and keep the public safe.
They could probably save a few quid by taking away the TV's and other 'luxuries' the cons get given. I also reckon that cons should be randomly shipped to prisons all over the country. So they can't mingle with their local mob.
I'm sure that if you have a word with the police they'll have it sorted in no time!
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How are you meant to eat your dinner then?
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sounds good... how about introducing id cards, so we know who everyone is? or more cctv? or making a years sentence last more than a month... or how about 42 days detention for suspected (which normally means guilty, but we need to dot all the i's and cross all the t's or it's thrown out) terrorists? that'll work won't it?
no? damn ! forgot about the liberals and the human rights brigade.. gotta please them aint we?
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Would it be OK to have a sharp edge on the ID cards? 
I always carry a knife, its on a little multi tool & is about 1.5" long.
Its often very useful for stabbing yobs & killing people...
Sorry, I meant cutting rope/string & other normal stuff that one would use one for.
When I go kayaking I wear a 6" knife strapped across my bouyancy aid for means of emergency escape should I need it.
There are good legal reasons for having a knife on you.
However those that carry kitchen knives & hatchets for offensive/defensive means should however IMO be dealt with most harshly.
(but leave me alone )
I always carry a knife, its on a little multi tool & is about 1.5" long.
Its often very useful for stabbing yobs & killing people...
Sorry, I meant cutting rope/string & other normal stuff that one would use one for.
When I go kayaking I wear a 6" knife strapped across my bouyancy aid for means of emergency escape should I need it.
There are good legal reasons for having a knife on you.
However those that carry kitchen knives & hatchets for offensive/defensive means should however IMO be dealt with most harshly.
(but leave me alone
)When was the last time the police had trouble identifying someone arrested for knife crime?
Do the crims really go around thinking, "yippee, no ID on me, I can stab with impunity"
Get real.
How many prisons could be built for the price of the ID card system?
Yes to the first two, no to the last. To date, the 28 days limit hasn't hampered the police in any way shape or form, and has not led to anyone being released without charge who then goes onto commit an act of terrorism. So what's the point.
I agree with Joe, S&S is the way to go with no bias on race, sex, age or anything else.
It would be interesting to see how many middle aged white men in suits and bowler hats in Kensington get S&S'd though
There must be a way of dealing with them also, identifying them is only the start?
MW
It would be interesting to see how many middle aged white men in suits and bowler hats in Kensington get S&S'd though
There must be a way of dealing with them also, identifying them is only the start?
MW
For some people prison is a real deterrent.
I knew someone who got sent away, for an offence greater than the one she'd actually committed. The sentence was one year, plus 6 months to run concurrently (at the same time). At the 3 months point, she was released on tag - she has to remain indoors between 6:45pm and 6:45am - for another 3 months. She likens this to being in prison again - locked up for 12 hours a day. If she sets one foot wrong, she will get recalled to prison again, and she has this hanging over her every day - it terrifies her. She has no intention of seeing the people she used to hang around with - prison has certainly worked for her.
The thing she hated most about prison is being so far from home - she was moved to drake hall in eccleshall for 2 months of her sentence. We still went to visit though - it was 107 miles away. For one month she was in new hall, wakefield, alongside murderers and peado's. All she did was punch someone in the face a couple of times
Of course, then there's those for whom prison is a part of life. For these there should be two classes of prison - normal prison as we see today, and a more strict, higher-class prison, where prisoners dont have a choice of food, dont have 12 hours a day to socialise, and have less visiting rights (and be further from home!)
I knew someone who got sent away, for an offence greater than the one she'd actually committed. The sentence was one year, plus 6 months to run concurrently (at the same time). At the 3 months point, she was released on tag - she has to remain indoors between 6:45pm and 6:45am - for another 3 months. She likens this to being in prison again - locked up for 12 hours a day. If she sets one foot wrong, she will get recalled to prison again, and she has this hanging over her every day - it terrifies her. She has no intention of seeing the people she used to hang around with - prison has certainly worked for her.
The thing she hated most about prison is being so far from home - she was moved to drake hall in eccleshall for 2 months of her sentence. We still went to visit though - it was 107 miles away. For one month she was in new hall, wakefield, alongside murderers and peado's. All she did was punch someone in the face a couple of times
Of course, then there's those for whom prison is a part of life. For these there should be two classes of prison - normal prison as we see today, and a more strict, higher-class prison, where prisoners dont have a choice of food, dont have 12 hours a day to socialise, and have less visiting rights (and be further from home!)
You know what i mean - to have her punished in the same way as murderers, peados, rapists (oh yes there are female rapists and peados), drug traffickers, seemed totally unfair.
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