C&G 2391 + C&G 2382 are not formal quals?

[Mike2007]

Napit told me on the phone today that both 2391 & 2382 were not a formal electrical qualification??

Is this true?

 

[Spark123]

I don't think they satisfy NAPITs enrolment creteria on their own, I take it they are after formal qualifications such as an NVQ3?

 

[ricicle]

No, because they do not teach you basic electrical theory and principles.

 

[flameport]

Basically it is a way to extract more money from you. If you don't have an NVQ3 (and there will be plenty of people who don't), you need one of their 'Certificates of Competence' which is obtained by attending one of their training courses. This gets you a piece of paper which not only expires after 5 years, it isn't recognised anywhere else either.

 

[JonoPashley]

give Elesca a call, much better service than NAPIT and no silliness.

 

[ColJack]

JIB mess you around too..

I got:

BTEC ONC electronics and electrical engineering
C&G 236 electrical installation part 1
C&G 236 electrical installation Part 2
C&G 2391 Inpection and Testing
C&G 2382 17th edition regulations..

and they sent me a "senior graded electrical trainee" ECS card.. all because I didn't do a recognised apprenticeship.. I was doing a YTS in electronics at the time...

 

[EdwardCurrent]

Hello,

I have had similar problems with the JIB, (not content with keeping electricians/operatives pay rates on the floor for yrs), I am still graded as a 'labourer', as I was in 1986. Will they help me get regraded ? No is the answer and after trying many times (mid nineties) I gave up.

It has meant I cannot apply for some jobs, but with the rates they pay it hasn't been a great loss.

Ed.

 

[JonoPashley]

JIB mess you around too..

I got:

BTEC ONC electronics and electrical engineering
C&G 236 electrical installation part 1
C&G 236 electrical installation Part 2
C&G 2391 Inpection and Testing
C&G 2382 17th edition regulations..

and they sent me a "senior graded electrical trainee" ECS card.. all because I didn't do a recognised apprenticeship.. I was doing a YTS in electronics at the time...

pretty sure if you do a NVQ3 they will give you Approved Electrician with that lot.

 

[scarypants]

if I remember right?
With NAPIT you need a level 3 qualification not particular an NVQ.
Are 2391/2 2381/2 not considered Level 3?

 

[ericmark]

JIB mess you around too..

I got:

BTEC ONC electronics and electrical engineering
C&G 236 electrical installation part 1
C&G 236 electrical installation Part 2
C&G 2391 Inpection and Testing
C&G 2382 17th edition regulations..

and they sent me a "senior graded electrical trainee" ECS card.. all because I didn't do a recognised apprenticeship.. I was doing a YTS in electronics at the time...

pretty sure if you do a NVQ3 they will give you Approved Electrician with that lot.

I had same. Apprentice listed as Engineering Craftsman does not say what in engineering from council apprenticeship.

C&G 2391
C&G 2381
C&G 2382
C&G 2377

Degree in Electrical and Electronic engineering.

I have been registered with NAECI agreement as "Advanced Electrician" but JIB want to give me labours card.

Must be Joking. As yet not needed a JIB card most likely never will. Member of IET and I would think any grading I get from them is far better than any JIB card!