nose bleeds

[Steve]

The docs said they no longer courterise as its not proven to work

Really??

Abandon all hope then

 

[kjacko]

Different schools of thought t i guess. As i said my GP friend still performs the procedure, so its down to choice i suppose.
Although on an 11-year old it must be very traumatising.

 

[Johnmelad502]

The docs said they no longer courterise as its not proven to work, yet my friend who is a GP still does use this method.

Change Doctors as cauterisation is absolutely proven to work in the majority of cases.

 

[kjacko]

You a doctor?

 

[Johnmelad502]

You a doctor?

Are you

 

[kjacko]

nope. But i haven't just made a sweeping statement.
I just mentioned what my son's doctor said, and what my close friend who is also a doctor said.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but i don't really know either way. So unless you can backup what you've just said, it is, as i mentioned a pretty 'sweeping' statement as i've also been told, it can be a very painful procedure and i'd hate for my son to go through such trauma to find it doesn't work!.
The OP even said he'd had it done twice and still suffers.

 

[Steve]

Indeed, once I was under a general, when I was about 14 i think. Then when I was 16/17 i had it done again, but this time it was under a "magic cream" and he felt around up there with something - dont know exactly what, im guessing some kind of chemical? The second time was kind of an "emergency" one if I remember right - I had just had a bad bleed, ended up being driven to hospital, and they took me straight through to have it done.

 

[Johnmelad502]

nope. But i haven't just made a sweeping statement.

I said in the majority of cases. I had it done when I was about 14. They used what looked like an electric soldering iron, probably was!

My son had it done chemically aged 15 and it worked for both of us.

Have spoken to many friends and relatives whose children have had to have it done and all were successful.

I find it very strange (alarming even) that a Doctor would say that there is no evidence that it works, when in fact the opposite is true.

Do a Google search and you will find plenty of success stories.

 

[kjacko]

I find it very strange (alarming even) that a Doctor would say that there is no evidence that it works, when in fact the opposite is true.

Do a Google search and you will find plenty of success stories.

I didn't say 'no evidence', i said "The docs said they no longer courterise as its not proven to work". Ok they may not have worded it exaclty like that, i can't remember, but the gist i got was, it was old and crude technology.
Again, i have no knowledge to argue either way, i just tried to reiterate what we were told.
So, semantics and arguments aside, was it painful for you or your son?
What confuses me is why would it in the OP's case need to be done twice. I thought it was kind of a permanent thing, no?

 

[WDIK]

Surgery for recurring nosebleeds

A minor procedure to cauterise (burn) the place where the bleeding is coming from can be successful in stopping recurring nosebleeds. This involves touching the bleeding area with a wool swab moistened with a corrosive chemical. If you have bleeding blood vessels, endoscopic surgery (using very fine instruments) can tie off the ends of the vessels to stop the bleeding.

If the bleeding vessel is very far back in the nose or difficult to compress, more major surgery may be required. In rare cases, the main artery from which the bleeding branch arises is tied off.

If your nasal septum is deviated (crooked), you may need to have an operation to straighten it.

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Nosebleed/Pages/Treatment.aspx

 

[kjacko]

lovely!

 

[ColJack]

it's permanent in as much as it "fixes" one bleed in one area, but there are more areas that can and do bleed if you have weak blood vessels.. so multiple treatments may be required when another vessel gets eroded or weakens to the point it bursts..

 

[Johnmelad502]

was it painful for you or your son?

Me yes, son no.

 

[kjacko]

So i assume the advances in technology made the difference between your painful experience and your son's non-painful one years later?