RCD and submersible pump
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If the pump causes the RCD to trip, the pump is defective and should not be used.
Remove the handle(s) then it won't be?
There's no smiley to suggest a hint of sarcasm so I'll go ahead and say that even without a handle it's still not a fixed appliance and is still very much portable!
Most garden pond pumps are small and light enough to be picked up and carried. Does that make them portable?
You suggested not, if the handle (if applicable) was removed.
The difference between them being fixed and portable being a handle?
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BAS knows it is dependent on weight but in real terms if it trips an RCD then it is likely faulty. Depending on size and stile there may be a oil bath seal and draining and inspecting oil often gives one a very good indication as to if water is getting in.
My pond pump has always run an a 10ma 40ms RCD and if it were to trip I would dump the pump as it could kill fish. However the pump I used in Hong Kong to keep the tunnel I was working on clear of water was a completely different case and although earth leakage monitors were used we would have never used an RCD as failure could cause drowning.
So if your pump is keeping your cellar clear then removing the RCD may make sense but not with a pond.
My pond pump has always run an a 10ma 40ms RCD and if it were to trip I would dump the pump as it could kill fish. However the pump I used in Hong Kong to keep the tunnel I was working on clear of water was a completely different case and although earth leakage monitors were used we would have never used an RCD as failure could cause drowning.
So if your pump is keeping your cellar clear then removing the RCD may make sense but not with a pond.
My welder weighs about 55kg.
It has a couple of handles.
Does that make it portable?
A: Not unless you are Geoff Capes.
The definition is equipment which is moved while in operation or which can easily be moved while connected to the supply. Nothing about being designed to be moved.
The pond pump must come under the 2nd half presumably, so what makes anything easy to move, apart from weight, size and relative position of the centre of gravity?
Handles?
My original post should have had a
or something to indicate light-heartedness, flameport was right, it's not tripping the RCD by design.
To answer Gary, I don't know. My welder is an extreme case - not many people would find it easy to move, but are we going to class anything which can be easily moved by virtue of its weight a mobile appliance? I know that's what it says in Part 2, but should actual handles be a factor?
Just looking around me now - the inkjet printer is easy to move, the laser one definitely not, but neither is expected to be moved whilst connected. And as for the broadband router, that would go into a coat pocket. Downstairs I've got a DVD player, tuner, amps etc - all easily moved when connected to the supply, but none of them have handles. The TV does, but is not easy to move. The gas cooker has a flex & plug for the ignition etc, and when the wheels are lowered it trundles about very easily. Is it a mobile appliance?
It has a couple of handles.
Does that make it portable?
A: Not unless you are Geoff Capes.
The definition is equipment which is moved while in operation or which can easily be moved while connected to the supply. Nothing about being designed to be moved.
The pond pump must come under the 2nd half presumably, so what makes anything easy to move, apart from weight, size and relative position of the centre of gravity?
Handles?
My original post should have had a
or something to indicate light-heartedness, flameport was right, it's not tripping the RCD by design.To answer Gary, I don't know. My welder is an extreme case - not many people would find it easy to move, but are we going to class anything which can be easily moved by virtue of its weight a mobile appliance? I know that's what it says in Part 2, but should actual handles be a factor?
Just looking around me now - the inkjet printer is easy to move, the laser one definitely not, but neither is expected to be moved whilst connected. And as for the broadband router, that would go into a coat pocket. Downstairs I've got a DVD player, tuner, amps etc - all easily moved when connected to the supply, but none of them have handles. The TV does, but is not easy to move. The gas cooker has a flex & plug for the ignition etc, and when the wheels are lowered it trundles about very easily. Is it a mobile appliance?
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