benefits cap

[big-all]

thats good news
if you can get a house with 10% deposit on 6k or less
not many 60k houses about
average round here in the south east 3 times that

 

[joinerjohn]

Those on disability with indesputable severe conditions/illness (amputees, genetic disorders, mulitiple sclerosis/wheelchair bound etc) should be looked after and those malingerers who fake bad backs/depression/etc etc should be weeded out and forced into work.

A chap in our local, is in a wheelchair as he had both legs amputated some years ago. He was recently deemed " fit for work." He phoned them when the letter telling him he was fit for work came through and asked how disabled he had to be. .. Their answer?? "Well, you could have prosthetic limbs fitted which would allow you to walk, then you could get an easy job."

Years ago , I used to help look after a blind, old lady. She was being assessed for carers allowance. A young person arrived from Social Security (as was) to conduct the assessment. First thing was could she make a cup of tea without help?.
This lady managed to get into the kitchen, boil the kettle (overfilled) fill the cup with boiling water (again overfilled), put milk into a cup of tea that was already spilling all over the place,,, and finally managed to produce a cup of tea. (there was a lot of prompting from the person doing the assessment too)
She was asked if she could go to the toilet on her own, go to bed on her own, etc.

She failed the assessment for carers allowance because she could do these things (in a fashion) Even though she couldn't go out of the front door without help. Without a carer, she was effectively trapped in her own home, yet Social Security deemed, she didn't need a carer she would have to pay for. She had no savings to speak of and depended upon relatives for a majority of her care. Simply because she had these relatives, SS reckoned she didn't warrant any payments for a full time carer, therefore putting the burden of care on to relatives.

 

[Alarm]

Cars? With disability perhaps, then other benefits forfitted. ( Father had and died from Motor Neurone Disease, so know a little about this).
Holidays? Chance would be a fine thing.
He did smoke and drink, only thing left really.
All this was after his savings were exausted, so yes the council tax was paid.


So could you live on £65 ish per week? Bonused up to 90 ish with a illness going to kill you?
After paying tax since working age? ( He died aged 57, so you work out the contributions, he did earn well for a while, over 700 a week in the 70`s), Doubt he got back half what he paid in.
Fair?
You work it out.

 

[adlplumbing]

may be not fair in his case alarm but you got look at it as whole
rather than just single case
as we spend more on wealth fare than the nhs and we can not keep doing that one reason why english people don`t get the job is their not to bothered due fact they can be happy on social this has to stop
why take minmum wage job if you can more on benfits

 

[Deleted member 105431]

why take minmum wage job if you can more on benfits

Dignity, pride, moral backbone, self respect. I have much more respect for anyone working and paying tax than any dole bludging parasite/skiv.

 

[Ricardus]

If I was in a position to employ people, I think I'd choose the person who'd taken a crappy job to make ends meet rather then someone who just sat back watching daytime tv, trolling internet message boards and claiming benefits.

 

[adlplumbing]

danger i agree with you mate but not everyone like us
so yer thats why i think cap good it get some lasy arsed people off the backsides and get a job

 

[Nige F]

we`re moving towards that Property Owning Democracy - I keep telling you lot

And the wealth will Trickle Down to all people

PS I think you meant successive govts.

 

[Nige F]

SS reckoned she didn't warrant any payments for a full time carer, therefore putting the burden of care on to relatives.

What do you expect from SS - Work will set you free - that`s their motto.

 

[cumbriahandyman]

This lady managed to get into the kitchen, boil the kettle (overfilled) fill the cup with boiling water (again overfilled), put milk into a cup of tea that was already spilling all over the place,,, and finally managed to produce a cup of tea. (there was a lot of prompting from the person doing the assessment too) She was asked if she could go to the toilet on her own, go to bed on her own, etc.

Even in the days of SS, she should have claimed Attendance Allowance, she would have been awarded that without an assessment. She would probably have been awarded the higher rate which would have included the carers premium.