Painting Artexed Ceilings, Comes Away On Roller

[scattycat69]

I'v had this happen on a few occasions on different houses that I have painted. Most are houses between 5-10 years old, although one house I did was an old cottage and that was paint on the ceiling cracking and bubbling rather than the artex.
Ive been painting a bedroom ceiling today (where I have already had the same problem in the hall, kitchen and lounge!). So it was with trepidation that I was applying paint to the ceiling. And as always I rollered the paint on (trade dulux white emulsion) and there on the roller is the artex and a large patch missing from the ceiling, back to the plasterboard !
This causes no end of additional work, that I haven't quoted for or allowd time for.
I'm interested to know what causes this? It's really starting to get my goat!
Am I wrong in my technique? Why am I coming across it more frequently? Is it bad workmanship when the houses were built?
Thanks in advance

 

[TheDec]

It sounds like the plasterboard was not correctly sealed, therefore when you apply pressure with the roller the textured coating is failing.

Dec

 

[scattycat69]

It sounds like the plasterboard was not correctly sealed, therefore when you apply pressure with the roller the textured coating is failing.

Dec

Thanks for your reply Dec. It makes perfect sense now that you explain it. Is this just a trait of the poor building work of the last 10 years, we have to look forward to decorating for the next 20 years?! I've had this problem occur more and more recently on houses on estates in the surrounding area I work.

What can I do to either prevent this happening in the first place, i.e. can I do something before I start painting to overcome this possible problem, or is it just something I have to suck up and put up with?

 

[TheDec]

If the plasterboard was not sealed then there really isn't anything you can do to save the textured coating from failiure, yet to at this time ease your burden you could try applying the emulsion with a brush. Doing so will offer less pressure and give the Artex a better chance of staying put, yet the only real cure would be it's removal.

Dec

 

[elrobbo82]

in future you could always use a large brush and brush the artex as it is the suction of the roller that is pulling the artex of the un primed plaster board.

 

[elrobbo82]

sorry thedec posted at the same time.

 

[TheDec]

No problem.

Dec

 

[scattycat69]

Thanks guys your advice is most welcomed. At least it's not my technique. Maybe any houses built in the last 10 years I will have to do with a brush in future! Maybe I can use a process pof elimiation ny checking which company built them!

Thanks again guys. I've only been doing this for the last 6 years so still a newbie and a woman, so learning slowly. ALWAYS A BIG HELP to get advice from those in the know!

 

[scattycat69]

ooops should have spell checked that post before the wine !

 

[TheDec]

Now I am not saying that this is a cure, or indeed the correct approach, yet if you ever are left with doubt regarding the adhesion of the surface/substrate of which you are painting. Forget the roller, and always choose the brush.

Dec

 

[joe-90]

It's the thick paint causing suction. Simply thin it down 10& and give it a quick wizz over or use a brush. Don't understand why you keep making the same mistake over and over again.

 

[TheDec]

Whether the paint was applied directly from the container or slightly thinned application of either with a roller would be sufficient to cause the Artex to fail.

Dec

 

[joe-90]

I've done it loads of times.

You get the same problem with poor adhesion with plaster skim.

 

[TheDec]

Never said you haven't yet I think in this case the brush is the better option.

Dec

 

[joe-90]

Yes. It's a safer option. Not disagreeing there.