Painting Artexed Ceilings, Comes Away On Roller

[TheDec]

I know, there is always more than one way.

Dec

 

[elrobbo82]

what about spraying? not that i have done this before as i have always used brush or roller.

 

[TheDec]

I doubt that spray application would be of any use, the amount of time taken to mask up would greatly outway any benefits even if it was to work.

Dec

 

[elrobbo82]

it would work but i do agree with the amount of masking and covering involved with regards to time. as said not sprayed before but just giving another option for the op.

 

[TheDec]

Yes fair enough.

Dec

 

[scattycat69]

It's the thick paint causing suction. Simply thin it down 10& and give it a quick wizz over or use a brush. Don't understand why you keep making the same mistake over and over again.

lol. I'm not having the problem on every ceiling job I do, but the failure of the current surface seems to becoming more frequent. So I was wondering if the 'new build's' I do sometimes and some (not all) seem to have this problem because they wack them up so quick ?

I don't think it's my technique?

 

[scattycat69]

I've done it loads of times.

You get the same problem with poor adhesion with plaster skim.

Yes I've also had this happen. Phew it's not my technique!

 

[scattycat69]

Thanks for all the advice. I agree a large brush in future if in any doubt on the quality of the finish. And I also agree that the time for masking etc to spray would not be of any benefit (not that I have used the spray).

Thanks again all, much appreciated.

 

[TheDec]

Scattycat,

Welcome to the finishing trade, not always easy is it. Yet the more mishaps of which you encounter will be the learning curve of which we have all been through, and perhaps you may not believe it now. Those learning curves can make you a far better P&D.

Dec

 

[scattycat69]

Scattycat,

Welcome to the finishing trade, not always easy is it. Yet the more mishaps of which you encounter will be the learning curve of which we have all been through, and perhaps you may not believe it now. Those learning curves can make you a far better P&D.

Dec

Very profound Dec, but so true.

 

[jondecs]

It's the thick paint causing suction. Simply thin it down 10& and give it a quick wizz over or use a brush. Don't understand why you keep making the same mistake over and over again.

lol. I'm not having the problem on every ceiling job I do, but the failure of the current surface seems to becoming more frequent. So I was wondering if the 'new build's' I do sometimes and some (not all) seem to have this problem because they wack them up so quick ?

I don't think it's my technique?

Wonders~~ Have the ceilings you have problems with been previously painted ?
If not previusly coated : Are you applying NEAT emulsion to BARE Artex?. Bare Artex should be mist coated. Thinned down upto 50%

Most new builds with artex ceilings are normally found to be Bare Artex.

Jiust wondering.~~
Good luck

 

[joe-90]

It's the thick paint causing suction. Simply thin it down 10& and give it a quick wizz over or use a brush. Don't understand why you keep making the same mistake over and over again.

lol. I'm not having the problem on every ceiling job I do, but the failure of the current surface seems to becoming more frequent. So I was wondering if the 'new build's' I do sometimes and some (not all) seem to have this problem because they wack them up so quick ?

I don't think it's my technique?

It IS your technique. How many more times do you need telling?

 

[scattycat69]

It's the thick paint causing suction. Simply thin it down 10& and give it a quick wizz over or use a brush. Don't understand why you keep making the same mistake over and over again.

lol. I'm not having the problem on every ceiling job I do, but the failure of the current surface seems to becoming more frequent. So I was wondering if the 'new build's' I do sometimes and some (not all) seem to have this problem because they wack them up so quick ?

I don't think it's my technique?

Wonders~~ Have the ceilings you have problems with been previously painted ?
If not previusly coated : Are you applying NEAT emulsion to BARE Artex?. Bare Artex should be mist coated. Thinned down upto 50%

Most new builds with artex ceilings are normally found to be Bare Artex.

Jiust wondering.~~
Good luck

That's a good thought actually. One of the ceilings was bare but the others were already painted, but I don't know if they were mist coated on the initial coat. So thats a fair point to consider.
One of the ceilings was just plaster and then a coat (or two) of white emulsion I am guessing. This one was flaking and peeling, but it was a bathroom, so I scraped the paint back as much as I could on the flaking areas, sanded to give a smoother finish, mist coated the bare bits of plaster and then filled and sanded, painted. Which it seemed to be ok, but then some other areas started to crack and flake, so thats been a bain to keep gooing back and re-doing.

 

[TheDec]

In situations like the bathroom ceiling of which you describe it is often better to sand back the entire ceiling, then apply a thinned oil based undercoat as your first coat.

Dec

 

[Nige F]

[I don't think it's my technique?

It IS your technique. How many more times do you need telling?[/quote] If you can **** you can paint 2 generations of dec`s before me - they taught me all they knew - and I still know nothing Lady Dec , don`t end up like Popeye with having to slap that 6inch emulsion brush about - learn to be ambidextrous