Perjury

[ryme64]

here you are

http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resourc...cing-remarks-dobson-norris-120104.pdf[/QUOTE]

After reading that, as a layman, I can only say that the prosecution is flawed, as was the summing up.

I hope that they will be freed on appeal.

The above comments do not make me a racist or a murderer lover. Just someone that wants to see justice being done.
The summing up seemed very biased.
Again, I am not sticking up for them, just want to see justice.

 

[cantaloup63]

So who had the knife then?

Judge Treacy's Remark number 6 is relevant here.

 

[ryme64]

He is not a murderer.

Just to clarify, I am saying he is a murderer based on English law, as evidenced by him having been found guilty of murder in court, and sentenced for murder.

I don't pretend to know the different definition that ryme is working on.

Murder is pre meditated. i.e. They went out with the intention of killing him that night.

 

[ryme64]

If it was not murder what was it ? a heated debate that got out of control? One of the participents who had a knife stabbed the other,either way premeditated.
He had a knife and used it whether in the heat of the moment or not he pulled the knife out and killed someone, So he must have thought about it.
It was not a general ruck fists flying etc.

So who commited the murder.

So who was carrying the knife

So who commited murder.

 

[spacecat]

He is not a murderer.

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Murder is pre meditated. i.e. They went out with the intention of killing him that night.

WRONG WRONG WRONG


they saw him , chased him down the street 'engulfed'' him and THEN stabbed him

They had plenty of time to think about it before they did it and hence was pre meditated.


it wasnt heat of the moment it was planned and coldly carried out albeit relatiuvely quickly


remember he was RUNNING AWAY they CHASED and then KILLED him

 

[joe-90]

Who had the knife though?

 

[sooey]

Anyone who wilfully kills someone is a murderer as far as I'm concerned, whether premeditated or not. I haven't read any of this case in depth so I don't know if that applies to these two or not.

 

[ryme64]

So who had the knife then?

Judge Treacy's Remark number 6 is relevant here.

The only relevance as I see it is that that is the start of the appeal.

Again, I am not defending the crime or the defendants, just trying to defend justice and our rights to it.

 

[joe-90]

One of them was offered immunity from prosecution - so how does that work?

 

[spacecat]

JUDGE says it doesnt matter all are complicit ALL are murderers

by being party and involved you are just as guilty as it should be

 

[ryme64]

Anyone who wilfully kills someone is a murderer as far as I'm concerned, whether premeditated or not. I haven't read any of this case in depth so I don't know if that applies to these two or not.

You have just answered yourself.


I DON'T KNOW.

 

[sooey]

You have just answered yourself.

That's funny...I hadn't asked anything.

 

[joe-90]

JUDGE says it doesnt matter all are complicit ALL are murderers

by being party and involved you are just as guilty as it should be

Then why was one offered immunity? Well?

 

[ryme64]

JUDGE says it doesnt matter all are complicit ALL are murderers

by being party and involved you are just as guilty as it should be

Absolute and utter garbage.

 

[spacecat]

I'll take M'Luds learned opinion over your nonsense anyday thanks

hopefully the one who got beaten up in Belmarsh will be getting another kicking again soon and hopefully the other as well.

15 years of watching your back and expecting a good kicking hah ha ha enjoy it boys see you when you are broken men and 50 years old!