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[ryan3]

no joy

 

[twgas]

Well men i am a qualified plumber who is doing a degree in Energy Management (Buildings). I am in year 3 and my final exam is doing a 10,000 word thesis on a energy related topic. As i have a interested in boiler servicing i have decided do compose my thesis on this subject on the fact that not near enough people get there boiler serviced every year and if they did they would save energy as a result that a service would insure that, that boiler was running as efficently as possible and also would reduce the CO2 emissions. So anyway i guess my question is does anyone have??? or know where i can get information to back my theory up? Do i have enough on this subject to compose my thesis and do i have a good case to argue? Any info/ advice?

Thanks for reading

Get some English lessons . I'm not trying to be smart but surely a well written thesis would be a good start.

 

[Dan Robinson]

You're going to need a hhhuuuuuggggeee sample with half of being the poor schmoes not getting their boilers serviced.

You could approach the big maintenance policy /breakdown cover companies and see if they keep records with data that might be relevant.

It COULD produce some interesting results, but I doubt it would hold much relevance to the subject you're looking at.

You may want to have an alternative title option that you can turn the data to if needed.


*edited to eliminate damn Android auto-correct anomalies.**

 

[cantaloup63]

Regardless of the grammar issues, I would say that you have a topic worthy of a thesis but one for which secondary data is likely to be hard to come by, for somewhat obvious reasons.

So you may well have to get your hands dirty and ask local engineers to complete paperwork for you over a period of time - in particular the (expected) increase in boiler efficiency after a service. Obviously you would need to have a wide variety of primary data requirements and expect these heating engineers to be renumerated for their time.

 

[Dan Robinson]

Problem is, combustion efficiency (easily measured) has naff all to do wth system efficiency (not easily measured).

Most engineers don't realise there's a difference too - like the peena7se on here who thought his Netaheat was 80% efficient

 

[oilman]

.................. the fact that not near enough people get there boiler serviced every year and if they did they would save energy as a result that a service would insure that, that boiler was running as efficently as possible and also would reduce the CO2 emissions.

Where do you get the information that lack of annual servicing necessarily means reduced efficiency? Like almost all others, I measure boiler efficiency, as to measure system efficiency would be VERY expensive and time consuming. However the figures I have collected over the years indicate that in most cases lack of a service for a year or two makes little difference to efficiency.

You could have the most efficient boiler available, but compared with the user turning the temperature down a couple of degrees, the efficiency gained by servicing would count for little. Consequently servicing will do almost nothing for CO2 emissions. If people were so concerned about CO2 emissions they would use oil instead of gas. As it is, there are other factors to consider, and CO2 isn't the most significant one to consumers, despite what they might say.

If you take up this subject for your thesis I think you will find you have shot yourself in the foot.

 

[ChrisR]

Ryan, if you bothered yourself to find out what a typical modern boiler service actually comprised, you would soon discover that you're wasting your time.

 

[gaswizzard]

not near enough people get there boiler serviced every year and if they did they would save energy as a result that a service would insure that, that boiler was running as efficently as possible and also would reduce the CO2 emissions.

The HIGHER the CO2% the better the combustion efficiency (who told you otherwise?)

Servicing a boiler can sometimes LOWER the efficiency due to the gas valves drifting (higher CO2) , maybe we should leave them like this?

 

[Dan Robinson]

sssshhh you'll confuse the poor chap. I think we've dropped enough bombshells for one evening.

 

[Agile]

Modern boilers gain very little ( if any ) efficiency increase when serviced.

The only boilers which do are the very old cast iron ones which could easily gain a 10% benefit when the heat exchanger is cleaned.

I dont think you will find it very easy following that lead.

More relevant might be how often they break down when they are regularly serviced.

Tony

 

[Dan Robinson]

Like wot i sed innit .

 

[ryan3]

no joy

 

[Agile]

It may be more relevant to psychology but its interesting why well off people with plenty of money for new cars dont want to spend money on upgrading to the latest energy efficient boilers!

 

[ryan3]

 

[ryan3]

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