The thing is though that the OP won't know if the circuit has a functioning, continuous earth without testing.Isolate circuit and strip back another inch of sheath from the no earth cable, with luck youre expose one
The thing is though that the OP won't know if the circuit has a functioning, continuous earth without testing.Isolate circuit and strip back another inch of sheath from the no earth cable, with luck youre expose one
The thing is though that the OP won't know if the circuit has a functioning, continuous earth without testing.Isolate circuit and strip back another inch of sheath from the no earth cable, with luck youre expose one
Yes that is correct. But do you already have an lighting circuit earth in the loft?I have done some more investigating in the loft and have found a junction box which there is a picture of this below that has been taken.
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/2691/img0649z.jpg
I am presuming that to add the earth to the upstairs lighting circuit, this will need to be re-wired from the fuse box?
Well actually that doesn't help because the alternate way to test without a long lead is to open the fusebox and start undoing cables.We also have an old wire fuse box if this helps.
Yes that is correct. But do you already have an lighting circuit earth in the loft?I have done some more investigating in the loft and have found a junction box which there is a picture of this below that has been taken.
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/2691/img0649z.jpg
I am presuming that to add the earth to the upstairs lighting circuit, this will need to be re-wired from the fuse box?
Remember just because there are earth wires there, as others have said, you will need to prove continuity between the loft earth wires and your main earthing terminal - that requires test equipment (multi-meter) and/or opening the fusebox.
The long lead test as mentioned requires you to be able to put one prong of the multi-meter on the main earth terminal and the other on the earth wire in the loft and get a low ohm reading.
Well actually that doesn't help because the alternate way to test without a long lead is to open the fusebox and start undoing cables.We also have an old wire fuse box if this helps.
If you are not comfortable or confident in doing this then leave well alone especially as this type of fusebox (Old wylex) is very cramped inside and if you cannot isolate power to the fusebox via an isolator (between the fusebox and the meter) then you will be working while live cables are around.
Inside the fusebox you will firstly have to identify the upstairs lighting circuit cable. Then see if that cable is connected to the earth bar. If it is then there is a possibility of an earth already existing in the loft.
You will then need to remove the lighting circuits live conductor (red normally) from the fusebox and put it and the cables earth together in a terminal block.
Then you go to the loft where you think an earth exists and test between the live and earth in the loft - low ohm reading means you have continuity and an earth in the loft.
If no cable exists or there is a break in the earth continuity to the loft then you could run an single earth cable from the fusebox earth bar to the junction box in the loft.
If all this seems too much then either get an electrician in or revert to your original plan.
You have discovered that your lighting circuit has been fiddled with by an idiot who did not understand what he was fiddling with.Going to go back to my original plans as it will save a lot of messing around.
I'm struggling to understand how that proposal relates to this requirement:So now i have got all my cables in place ready to be wired up but the thing i am unsure about (after looking at the single way lighting wiki) is that with the light i am getting the feed from only having a live and neutral, can i simply connect a terminal block to these and run a feed to the bedroom ceiling rose and then the switch goes to the ceiling rose as well?
In my hallway i have a double switch, 1 switch operates the light in the hallway and the other operates the light in the main bedroom. In the bedroom i have a pull-cord switch.
I would like to remove the pull-cord switch in the bedroom and add a switch near the door in the main bedroom and remove the option to turn the light on from the double switch in the hallway so you can only turn the light on from within the bedroom and.
You have discovered that your lighting circuit has been fiddled with by an idiot who did not understand what he was fiddling with.Going to go back to my original plans as it will save a lot of messing around.
You cannot just ignore that.
I'm struggling to understand how that proposal relates to this requirement:So now i have got all my cables in place ready to be wired up but the thing i am unsure about (after looking at the single way lighting wiki) is that with the light i am getting the feed from only having a live and neutral, can i simply connect a terminal block to these and run a feed to the bedroom ceiling rose and then the switch goes to the ceiling rose as well?
In my hallway i have a double switch, 1 switch operates the light in the hallway and the other operates the light in the main bedroom. In the bedroom i have a pull-cord switch.
I would like to remove the pull-cord switch in the bedroom and add a switch near the door in the main bedroom and remove the option to turn the light on from the double switch in the hallway so you can only turn the light on from within the bedroom and.
So now i have got all my cables in place ready to be wired up but the thing i am unsure about (after looking at the single way lighting wiki) is that with the light i am getting the feed from only having a live and neutral, can i simply connect a terminal block to these and run a feed to the bedroom ceiling rose and then the switch goes to the ceiling rose as well?
Unless you were responsible for this:There was no need to go around calling me an idiot!
Unless you were responsible for this:There was no need to go around calling me an idiot!
it wasn't you I was calling an idiot.
No worries.Jumped the gun a bit there so my apologies
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