Electricians Beware!

“It is a ridiculous waste of tax-payers' money to bring this to court. But I just want to move on now.”

I think if it were me I'd want to move on into a lawsuit for compensation.
 
Just shows what a joke this country has become !
There surely must be more to this case than what is reported in either the 'Huffington Post' or Daily Mail? There undoubtedly are some daft and/or incompetent and/or 'trigger-happy' police officers around, but it really makes no sense that even the worst of them would taser a calm individual unless they did something that represented a threat or a major impediment to detaining them. Even having a loaded handgun in one's pocket, let alone a couple of screwdrivers and a knife, ought not, in itself, result in such action.

He is reported to have drunk 'several pints of cider' - and I would very strongly suspect that it is the way he reacted/behaved when challenged (which apparently is the subject of inconsistent witness reports) which resulted in him being tasered - not anything to do with what he had in his pocket. If I had drunk several pints of cider, I can well imagine that it very possible that I might react uncoperatively, violently or otherwise inappropriately!

Kind Regards, John
 
If I had drunk several pints of cider, I can well imagine that it very possible that I might react uncoperatively, violently or otherwise inappropriately!
Probably wet yourself as soon as the taser kicked in. Which would make it even more efficacious.... :lol:
 
The number of press reports of police officers using excessive force in dubious circumstances seems to be on the increase. I sincerely hope Mr. Thomas will pursue this matter to the full, as there appears to be a growing culture in law enforcement to hit first and ask questions after. This is the sort of action expected of the likes of East Germany's Stasi or Russia's KGB, not the British police. The "bad apples" in the force have to be wheedled out before they turn the whole barrel bad.
 
The number of press reports of police officers using excessive force in dubious circumstances seems to be on the increase. I sincerely hope Mr. Thomas will pursue this matter to the full, as there appears to be a growing culture in law enforcement to hit first and ask questions after. This is the sort of action expected of the likes of East Germany's Stasi or Russia's KGB, not the British police. The "bad apples" in the force have to be wheedled out before they turn the whole barrel bad.
As general statements, I agree with everything you say. However, as I said before, in this particular case, I feel sure that there was far more provocation of the tasering than any of us know about. Even the bad apples (and we're talking about 'firearms officers') are aware of the risks to their careers and livelihoods (if not also criminal convictions) associated with unjustified discharge of their weapons, and the fact that almost any such discharge will result in some sort of enquiry/investigation.

Kind Regards, John
 
Yes.

Some sort of "enquiry/investigation".

When was the last time a policeman was convicted of murder, or even manslaughter when his actions caused a death which a coroner's court ruled was unlawful killing?
 
Yes. Some sort of "enquiry/investigation". When was the last time a policeman was convicted of murder, or even manslaughter when his actions caused a death which a coroner's court ruled was unlawful killing?
Dunno whether it's ever happened (murder is obviously unlikely) - but I do know that, this very day, one was sacked as a result of an "enquiry/investigation", despite the fact that the criminal justice system had not regarded the evidence as strong enough for a criminal conviction.

Kind Regards, John
 
I see.

So if I had used unnecessary force against a policeman, or another demonstrator, force which a post-mortem examination showed caused his death, and his death had been officially classified as unlawful killing, what odds would you give on me effectively getting away with it?
 
I do know that, this very day, one was sacked as a result of an "enquiry/investigation", despite the fact that the criminal justice system had not regarded the evidence as strong enough for a criminal conviction.
Even though his resignation had been declined (I think twice) previously.

So soon after the Hillsborough enquiry. Who'd have thought it?


The police are tasked with keeping 'The Queen's Peace' - not ours.
 
Even though his resignation had been declined (I think twice) previously.
Actually his resignation from other forces, to avoid disciplinary hearings for other instances of criminal violence, had been accepted by those other forces on more than one occasion.

I'm the classic middle-aged middle-class law-abiding citizen who ought to have respect for the police.

I'm not sure I have any left, and that is entirely down to their behaviour.
 

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