Boiler "Immediately Dangerous" on flue external CO

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OK so the other day we had our (old) combi gas boiler (Volkera Excell 80sp) serviced. The guy did the usual check with a combustion meter in the flue, and got with a higher-than-allowed CO reading. Apparently the inner flue has corroded allowing combustion products into the boiler air supply. The flue vents directly through the external wall (so not void)

He has disconnected the boiler and capped off the gas supply as apparently this is "immediately dangerous". My question is: Is this correct? Having looked at the GUISP document, example 10.6 "Failure to achieve satisfactory combustion readings when using an electronic portable combustion gas analyser:" for flued appliances is an "At Risk" level and not "immediately dangerous". (nothing has indicated that combustion products are leaking into the house).

I accept that it is an old boiler and it's high time it was replaced, but I dislike the idea that they might be labelling it as "dangerous" to pressure us into a new boiler. Can anyone please advise?
 
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Even if he did, what difference would 'at risk' make anyway, you still can't use it. CO is lethal in case you were unaware.
 
Instead of bleating on about being pressured into a new boiler.

How about showing some gratitude towards the guy for potentially saving you and your family from a potential tragedy?

really sticks in my craw when the default position from homeowners is that they are being fleeced.

Anne BLo0dy Robinson has a lot to answer for a long with that dick Allbright.
 
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As commented above you seem to be focusing on the co level being AR however you also have another fault the corroded flue which is ID

So the action would be acceptable [to isolate and label the appliance for non use]

As further pointed out above, perhaps you should be saying thanks for the guy for doing his job properly or is that we are dammed if we do and hell we should go to prison if we don't.
 
corroded/damaged/incorrect flue affecting combustion is ID. What you are referring to is assuming everything else with the boiler is ok and a bad reading. Love it when someone complains because you've just discovered they have a dangerous appliance. You'd think they might actually be grateful :rolleyes:
 
The kind of co levels likely to occur with a corroded flue will kill you in less than an hour.
 
Out of interest, do you have a carbon monoxide detector near the boiler and if not, why not?
 
It's at Risk after the Engineer has cleaned the burners, heat exchanger, fan, inspected the flue and Checked the burner pressure. If they still can't get the readings down under a required level then they will call it At Risk.

A flue that is corroded will allow the combustion products to be recycled causing a poor burn and producing even more carbon monoxide, that will kill you, sound dangerous to me. ;)
 
Instead of bleating on about being pressured into a new boiler.

How about showing some gratitude towards the guy for potentially saving you and your family from a potential tragedy?

really sticks in my craw when the default position from homeowners is that they are being fleeced.

Anne BLo0dy Robinson has a lot to answer for a long with that dick Allbright.

Your post stands out because the others provided information whereas you just griped about us "Homeowners". You seem to be a long-standing member so I have to say I'm disappointed (although the language of your response seems to be fairly typical of this forum)
 
It annoys allot of us to be honest. I've had to call Transco as it then was to cut off a gas supply after the customer refused me permission to disconnect the appliance as it was unsafe. Too many people think your after their money :(
 
All,

Thanks to the forum for for clarifying how the rules work. Filtering out the complaints about how awful us homeowners are and how grateful we should be, there was a useful explaination in the responses.

Perhaps I should add that I have no real dispute regarding what is safe or not safe (that's what you're trained for, much like I'm trained for RADHAZ - safe working with high power radio frequency - another invisible thing which needs respect).

You may collectively dislike this notion, but there are people in this world who would say things are dangerous and need replacing, when in fact they're not and don't. I actually do trust my gas people - they've done good other work in the past - but when the sums are large I'm not going to aplogise for being dilligent and exploring the problem (like engineers like to do). If this means being moaned at on a forum, then I think that's probably worth it.

So thanks again for your help.
 
Instead of bleating on about being pressured into a new boiler.

How about showing some gratitude towards the guy for potentially saving you and your family from a potential tragedy?

really sticks in my craw when the default position from homeowners is that they are being fleeced.

Anne BLo0dy Robinson has a lot to answer for a long with that dick Allbright.

Your post stands out because the others provided information whereas you just griped about us "Homeowners". You seem to be a long-standing member so I have to say I'm disappointed (although the language of your response seems to be fairly typical of this forum)


You may not like the tone of my post but it doesn't make it any less accurate. As I said. It is blo0dy annoying to have your trade constantly under suspicion.

Did you call the engineer to thank him for possibly saving your life?

What would you have done had he not checked the emissions and someone ended up in hospital?
 
No one cares about your radio 4 certification. As pointed out already what is the difference between AR and ID?
 
What pressure :?: Summers coming:cool: and lydl are selling solar powered showers ;)

Look on the bright side you are alive and well :unsure:
 

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