I've changed the heading to read "Positive Discrimination - Positive Action" in recognition of my mistaken use of an incorrect terminology.
To all intents and purposes, I meant "Positive Action" which is the same in the concept, meaning and results as Positive Discrimination.
I now realise and accept that Positive Discrimination is illegal (under EHRC) whereas Positive Action is legal.
No, you said (and described) positive discrimination, not positive action.
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Mind you don't catch your trousers with all that backpedalling, and Tone, you got him, you got him good.
If I must, and because you have as good as insisted, explain how the confusion came about:
I said on Fri 14 Mar (Page 7 of the Lawrence thread)
The police, themselves, recognised the need for positive discrimination to counter the institutional racism endemic within police forces and took some positive action to remedy it.
BT, later, in the ban Rogue Hanger thread said on Wed 16 Apr (page 23)
I don’t believe in positive discrimination. I believe the best person should get the job regardless and irrespective of whoever and however many of a particular stereotype that may or may not be! The clue is in the word “discrimination”.
Which I continued with, in the same thread Page 24 on Thur 17 April
I don’t believe in positive discrimination. I believe the best person should get the job regardless and irrespective of whoever and however many of a particular stereotype that may or may not be! The clue is in the word “discrimination”.
Positive discrimination is sometimes a useful tool for various reasons, eg for overcoming institutional racism, or ensuring that some institutions represent those that they serve, or the employer recognises that a fair mix of people are required, etc.
Sorry, BT, I've been busy and I overlooked this. Did you want to explore your opposition to Positive Discrimination further? I'm up for it.
BT invited me to start a new thread on that subject. Hence, this thread.
Do you see how the confusion arose now?
I’m quite happy to accept responsibility for the continuing confusion. It was partly my fault. If you think that somehow suggests that the concept of Positive Action is wrong, illegal, immoral or whatever, then you’re welcome to your delusion.
Positive Discrimination is illegal, Positive Action is not, but they both are applied for the same problem, they both share the same concepts, methods and procedures and they both, hopefully, achieve the same results.
Now be a good lad, and put the gun down before you shoot yourself in the other foot.