increase heat output of "designer" vertical radiators

[DP]

By the way, this dinosaur can do heat loss from first principles Tony
Don't see you giving any useful information to the poster

You have a habit of belittling other folks efforts whilst spouting how well you carry out your task
How can KW per square meter be a good guide to establishing what output of radiator needs selecting.
Oh yes, remembered the gem you posted a few days ago........nupty. Pray tell what/ who a nupty is

I use to think you were a very clever person, but of late and after some long forum discussions with you, I am not so sure

I do like reading your posts and will offer advice that may not be in line with what you say. I also refrain from belittling you opinion unlike following quote

BTUs are sometimes quoted by manufacturers to help those dinosaurs who have not kept up to date with current methods.

You open the door by making such remarks will obviously be responded with likewise comment

DO you know this for fact or is this 'agailing'

 

[Roger928]

now as the rads are already in

What make are they?

 

[needmorstuff]

What make are they?

hudson reed sloane 1800 x 354

 

[Steelmasons]

I agree DP.

 

[DP]

hudson reed sloane 1800 x 354

How big is the room, ceiling height, room temperature, window size etc etc

 

[ianmcd]

How big is the room, ceiling height, room temperature, window size etc etc

insulation , wall types , double glazing, floor type ? nope forget all that just measure the floor area that is all you need and make sure you measure it in killowatts

 

[needmorstuff]

insulation , wall types , double glazing, floor type ? nope forget all that just measure the floor area that is all you need and make sure you measure it in killowatts

hehe.

kitchen/family room. completely open plan.

kitchen.
3.5x4m cavity wall. 1m window
room above
1 outside wall
Milano Alpha - White Vertical Double Slim Panel Designer Radiator 1780mm x 280mm
3751btu

family room.
4x4m
cavity wall.
2.7m bifold
2.4x1m window
3 outside walls
1800x354 hudson reed sloane double panel 6700btu @ 60c

 

[ianmcd]

well if you used all that information in the heat calculator that you used then you will be far more accurate than just measuring the floor area, when calculating the heating requirements of a room it is not rocket science , you need to know the heat loss of the room and how much you want to increase the temperature by , and it sounds like you have done that , there are loads of free programs and Apps that will do it for you, the radiators or heat emitters to give them their correct name , do not know if they are vertical or horizontal and if they are working correctly as you say then I would be looking at a different problem like an unexpected heat loss or draught from somewhere

 

[needmorstuff]

well if you used all that information in the heat calculator that you used then you will be far more accurate than just measuring the floor area, when calculating the heating requirements of a room it is not rocket science , you need to know the heat loss of the room and how much you want to increase the temperature by , and it sounds like you have done that , there are loads of free programs and Apps that will do it for you, the radiators or heat emitters to give them their correct name , do not know if they are vertical or horizontal and if they are working correctly as you say then I would be looking at a different problem like an unexpected heat loss or draught from somewhere

yes I did use the calc and bought the appropriate btu rads but they don't heat room up enough.

 

[ianmcd]

only thing I can think of is dont use thermostatic radiator valves as you said you were struggling for space and the TRVs sense the temperature of the air in the room , if you have TRVs on the rads take the sensor head off and if the rooms heat up without them the replace them with on off control or lockshield valves

 

[needmorstuff]

only thing I can think of is dont use thermostatic radiator valves as you said you were struggling for space and the TRVs sense the temperature of the air in the room , if you have TRVs on the rads take the sensor head off and if the rooms heat up without them the replace them with on off control or lockshield valves

Thanks. I award you the award of most useful reply.

 

[Dan Robinson]

designer vertical rads never heat the room properly.

We added a standard radiator into the office of a customer recently, who was in exactly the same position as you.

 

[needmorstuff]

designer vertical rads never heat the room properly.

We added a standard radiator into the office of a customer recently, who was in exactly the same position as you.

that's my impression of them. sh1te

 

[ianmcd]

Thanks. I award you the award of most useful reply.

if the valves are in a tight space then the air in that space will heat a lot quicker than the open space , so the valves will shut down too quickly, the TRVs can not heat up or cool down water they can only let the water that has been heated by your boiler to enter the rad or stop it, try the rads with the sensor heads removed and see what happens

 

[picasso]

That's a couple of big rooms to heat with 3kws of rads, can you not add more rads ? or something like a plinth heater with a blower?