I just wanted to install a new ceiling light, simple swap against the old ceiling rose / light pendant, I thought!
I took the old light down and noticed right away there was no earth, looked again and noticed that there was only one two cores, black and red, but no sign of the outer cable. So I took down the ceiling rose in the hope to see at least one cable with outer insulation and some earth. Instead I found a true mess, attached is photo (Sorry I just realized the poor quality but now I put the lights back up before it turns dark):
1. Shoved up into the ceiling void, there is connector block (with screw terminals) which seems to be the loop for the neutrals (all are black cores).
2. For as far as I can see into the ceiling, all cables have their outer insulation removed.
I do see red cores and something that looks like the blank earth cores higher up in the ceiling.
How worried should I be about this arrangement? Out of all places it is in/above the bathroom.
For now I put some tape around the terminal block, but I understand that a maintenance free and enclosed connector would be much better. The bigger question I have is, how big is the risk stemming from these cables running through the ceiling without outer insulation? The circuit is for the upstairs lights and on a 6amp MCB from the non-RCD side of the CU. Above the bathroom there is the loft, which is not boarded but covered in high insulation. (And as you might remember from an older post, it's really difficult to access the loft, but this time I think that someone really needs to get up there...)
And thinking forwards, the light I wanted to install needs to be earthed. It is a LED bulkhead and doesn't have connectors that allow for looping the neutrals, so that would need to stay in a MF-box in the ceiling. But I would need to get an earth to the light. All other lights in this circuit do have an earth. Even at the bathroom (ceiling) switch there is a T&E - that earth core I found unattached though, but terminated it now at the back box.
Sorry for such a long post and thanks in advance!
I took the old light down and noticed right away there was no earth, looked again and noticed that there was only one two cores, black and red, but no sign of the outer cable. So I took down the ceiling rose in the hope to see at least one cable with outer insulation and some earth. Instead I found a true mess, attached is photo (Sorry I just realized the poor quality but now I put the lights back up before it turns dark):
1. Shoved up into the ceiling void, there is connector block (with screw terminals) which seems to be the loop for the neutrals (all are black cores).
2. For as far as I can see into the ceiling, all cables have their outer insulation removed.
I do see red cores and something that looks like the blank earth cores higher up in the ceiling.
How worried should I be about this arrangement? Out of all places it is in/above the bathroom.
For now I put some tape around the terminal block, but I understand that a maintenance free and enclosed connector would be much better. The bigger question I have is, how big is the risk stemming from these cables running through the ceiling without outer insulation? The circuit is for the upstairs lights and on a 6amp MCB from the non-RCD side of the CU. Above the bathroom there is the loft, which is not boarded but covered in high insulation. (And as you might remember from an older post, it's really difficult to access the loft, but this time I think that someone really needs to get up there...)
And thinking forwards, the light I wanted to install needs to be earthed. It is a LED bulkhead and doesn't have connectors that allow for looping the neutrals, so that would need to stay in a MF-box in the ceiling. But I would need to get an earth to the light. All other lights in this circuit do have an earth. Even at the bathroom (ceiling) switch there is a T&E - that earth core I found unattached though, but terminated it now at the back box.
Sorry for such a long post and thanks in advance!