Ok tell me where and why this is wrong .....
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On a conveyor belt.
There and back, same conveyor belt. I gather it is all to do with astrophysics. I cannot understand it myself.
It will never take-off. Not like the good old days. When you could go to the pictures, buy a pint afterwards, then some fish and chips on t'way 'ome, and still have money left for packet o' fags in t'morning.....on way t'school......
There and back, same conveyor belt. I gather it is all to do with astrophysics. I cannot understand it myself.
It will never take-off. Not like the good old days. When you could go to the pictures, buy a pint afterwards, then some fish and chips on t'way 'ome, and still have money left for packet o' fags in t'morning.....on way t'school......
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At the time, the signals from the moon were received "live" at stations on three continents on earth: -
two in Australia (the Honeysuckle Creek Tracking Station near Canberra and the Parkes Radio Observatory); one at the Goldstone Deep Space Communications Complex in the Mojave Desert of California; and one at the Madrid Manned Flight Tracking Site in Spain.
Of course, these signals also could be received by other facilities on earth (e.g. Jodrell Bank or tracking stations in the USSR, among others.)
Since no such facility at the time reported that the signals were NOT coming from the moon or in space to or from the moon, it is reasonable to conclude that they did come from the right place at the right time.
(i.e. If it did not happen as NASA showed "live", the USSR, at least, would have called "foul".)
The Lunar Laser Ranging experiment (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment#cite_note-Lunakhod_2-1) depends on several precisely placed retroreflectors planted on the Moon during the Apollo program (11, 14, and 15) and the two unmanned Soviet Lunokhod missions.
They are where they are supposed to be and are still used by astronomers precisely to determine the distance to the moon and how this is changing over time.
two in Australia (the Honeysuckle Creek Tracking Station near Canberra and the Parkes Radio Observatory); one at the Goldstone Deep Space Communications Complex in the Mojave Desert of California; and one at the Madrid Manned Flight Tracking Site in Spain.
Of course, these signals also could be received by other facilities on earth (e.g. Jodrell Bank or tracking stations in the USSR, among others.)
Since no such facility at the time reported that the signals were NOT coming from the moon or in space to or from the moon, it is reasonable to conclude that they did come from the right place at the right time.
(i.e. If it did not happen as NASA showed "live", the USSR, at least, would have called "foul".)
The Lunar Laser Ranging experiment (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment#cite_note-Lunakhod_2-1) depends on several precisely placed retroreflectors planted on the Moon during the Apollo program (11, 14, and 15) and the two unmanned Soviet Lunokhod missions.
They are where they are supposed to be and are still used by astronomers precisely to determine the distance to the moon and how this is changing over time.
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There's some rather interesting articles that refute the tracking. But come on what about the temperatures ?
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Please you know where that came from !!!Picture of one of the lunar landing sites, taken by LRO using high res camera:
What about what the nasa bods are saying !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Watch it !
It's wrong because your vid bears the headline "NASA admits we never went to the moon" which is untrue on two counts.
I'm glad I was able to help correct your error.
In fairness if it didn't happen I very much doubt the truth would make worse the already rock bottom opinion the majority have of the US government. It's like when you know someone is a pathological liar and they get caught out in a lie, you're hardly surprised. The US gov doesn't have any credibility left to lose.
Solar thermal panels are matt black to absorb radiated heat, space craft are highly reflective to reflect radiated heat.
In space there is only radiated heat, there is no atmosphere to conduct heat to the space craft.
Here's the same without the earth.
https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/the-last-12-men-to-set-foot-on-the-moon/4/
Edit - D'oh - just realised it' the moon in the sky.
https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/the-last-12-men-to-set-foot-on-the-moon/4/
Edit - D'oh - just realised it' the moon in the sky.
Like many people, the presenter fails to take into consideration the difference between "Temperature" (which is relative to the kinetic [movement] energy of each molecule) and "Heat" (which is the [total] amount of energy).
This is well summed up in this quote from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermosphere
"The highly diluted gas in this layer can reach 2,500 °C (4,530 °F) during the day.
Even though the temperature is so high, one would not feel warm in the thermosphere, because it is so near vacuum that there is not enough contact with the few atoms of gas to transfer much heat. A normal thermometer might indicate significantly below 0 °C (32 °F), at least at night, because the energy lost by thermal radiation would exceed the energy acquired from the atmospheric gas by direct contact."
Fairly obviously, in the Exosphere the gas molecules are even fewer and further between so, even if they are are a higher Temperature, there is less Heat.
The International Space Station, and those manning it, are at an altitude of 405 km (252 miles) - in the Thermosphere - and you can see what they may be seeing right now at the following site:- (http://iss.astroviewer.net/)
The following sites may also be of interest:-
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/27/russia-us-agree-cooperate-building-first-lunar-station/
http://www.newsweek.com/nasa-roscosmos-russia-moon-space-station-agreement-672620
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There is a device called the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter orbiting the moon and taking high resolution photographs.
It has photographed many of the sites of the lunar landings and they can be viewed at https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/a.../#.WhUF29LXa70
Also, see https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/L...llo-sites.html
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So in the video we have Nasa bods saying we might one day be able to go to the moon ?????????? Once they work out how to get through the Van Allan radiation belt ?
Don't they know we've already been to the moon ?
The orbiter images ...seen some info questioning the images after scrutiny of what's shown. It's mainly the points above that seem rather strange.
