Momentum the new neo fascists

[Notch7]

the reaction of the electorate is very clear

yes -Corbyn bought the youth vote by offering free tuition fees

labour managed to increase their vote in their heartland but little gains elsewhere, which reflects Corbyns interest in preaching to the converted.

Despite a conservative appalling campaign and a poor candidate, labour still didnt win.

Corbyn says labour are the 'government in waiting' -so where is Corbyn? he is hardly in the public eye at all, almost never on TV or radio

Everybody has at the moment forgotten how split the labour party is, the moderates in the party are biding their time.

 

[JohnD]

almost never on TV or radio

yes, we know the mass media ignore him, and had to be forced to give him equal airtime during the election campaign. Which upped his profile and his approval rating.

 

[JohnD]

you think this is the youth vote?

and this is a tory "crowd."

 

[Doggit]

You may be frightened.

Oh dear John, you really don't understand things do you. Now why would I be frightened of Corbyn getting into power, when I know that he isn't going to. You're so convinced that you're beloved Messaih is already deciding which colour curtains he wants in no 10, that you can't stand back and analyse the situation dispassionately. And that's all I'm doing; giving you a run down of how I see it panning out. Nothing is set in stone, though, and I could be wrong, but I doubt I'll be as wrong as you are.

 

[noseall]

Despite a conservative appalling campaign and a poor candidate, labour still didnt win.

Hilarious.
Despite the Tories being in the strongest pre-election position over Labour for decades, their losses during the campaign were catastrophic. No wonder the RWR are trying to promote a toxic brand of Labour in response. Even now the fall out is still hurting the Tories.

 

[JohnD]

when I know that he isn't going to.

How much time have you spent campaigning against ducks as the next government?

none, because you know it's not going to happen.

How much time have you spent campaigning against Labour?

Lots, because the prospect draws ever nearer, and it scares you.

Same as the right-wing press and the RWR retired plumbers.

They make up all these fake smears because they're ****-scared.

 

[JohnD]

just look at the wild applause from these workers in a toothpaste factory ordered by their bosses to attend Theresa's nonsense speech.

you think this is popular support?

 

[noseall]

Blah, blah, blah.

I see you are logged in, but would rather not answer your accusations on another thread.
Just in case you missed it.....

Well yes Noseall, you and John keep accusing us of being xenephobic and hating foreigners, so by default, you and John must want them coming over here.

or have you forgotten that you and JD have always accused me of hating foreigners and being xenephobic.

To which I said.....

Forgotten? What post? There must be loads if I'm always doing it.

Where are these posts Doggit?

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[noseall]

Now why would I be frightened of Corbyn getting into power

Dunno. You do seem to be scared though.

 

[Doggit]

Then I can only say that you are a poor judge of character Noseall. As to the posts, I'm one of the RWR that you have so often accused indiscriminately of being racists and Xenephobes.

 

[noseall]

I'm one of the RWR that you have so often accused indiscriminately of being racists and Xenephobes.

Show me where I have accused you of being xenophobic or racist.

You made a direct accusation when you wrote this.......

or have you forgotten that you and JD have always accused me of hating foreigners and being xenephobic.

I have accused Roger/Norcon of being racist because he is and makes no secret of it. Please show me any others.​

 

[Notch7]

ou think this is the youth vote

No, its Corbyn on his soapbox spouting his rhetoric to the converted.

Corbyn managed a high share of the vote, but the conversion of votes to seats was pretty weak. That reflects the campaign, lots of rallies in safe seats.

Lets not forget the far left of the party is hated by the more moderate sector.

 

[gasbanni]

I am a Socialist, and believe in socialist values, Corbyn has brought socialism back into the party, and in doing so, has doubled the party membership making it one of the biggest socialist parties in Europe...
As for Haringay, its not just a case that Momentum forced her out, that is the right wing medias spin on the story, and as usual people take it as the truth, Two local MP's were against her plans, one of them a Lib Dems MP.
please take time to read this article for a more accurate version of the truth..
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...aken-over-momentum-locals-taking-back-control
It’s where council leader Claire Kober plans to take the vast bulk of municipal assets – everything from libraries to school building to council homes – and stick them for 20 years into a vast private fund worth £2bn. Her partner in this new Haringey Development Vehicle (HDV) is the multinational property developer, Lendlease. If you want an explanation of why Haringey has just seen a clearout of its councillors, drop labels such as Trot or Momentum. Use HDV.

Unprecedented in its scale and scope, the HDV will chuck families out of their homes, rip apart local communities and shut down shops and businesses. Its proponents cannot be described as moderates, any more than Thatcher’s sell-off of our water and electricity can be described as moderate policies. Kober and her supporters on the council claim that it is the only way Haringey can tackle its giant housing crisis. That overlooks the fact that the very first tranche of public property to go into the pot will be the entire civic heart of Haringey, including the central library and the civic headquarters. It ignores the fact that the HDV has no explicit target for social housing.

Ok give me an example of a socialist country where that political system works ....forget scandanavia !


http://thefederalist.com/2015/08/11/scandinavia-isnt-a-socialist-paradise/

 

[Notch7]

how me where I have accused you of being xenophobic or racist

You use the term RWR constantly, which is commonly considered to be Right Wing Racist.........

 

[Notch7]

Ok give me an example of a socialist country where that political system works

Corbyn thinks Cuba:

Fidel Castro, who has died aged 90, was a "huge figure in our lives", Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has said.

Mr Corbyn praised the former Cuban president's revolutionary "heroism", his presence on the world stage and Cuba's health and education systems