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Because I am not making pro Vlad claims I don't have to produce any evidence do I.
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I did
I didn't say it was shot down by a Ukrainian fighter, I said it could have been shot down by rebels who mistook it for a Ukrainian fighter jet.
you mean the pro-Russian rebels who are supported, supplied and directed by Russia? Using a missile launcher and crew supplied by Russia?
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How many Russian Soldiers have been killed in Ukraine, any Russian soldiers fighting in Ukraine are probably volunteers.
How does recordings of Ukrainian rebels allegedly boasting about the attack prove that Russian regular soldiers were behind the attack.
perhaps they're on holiday. With their guns and tanks, and wearing uniform.
Yeah, you Putinistas will say anything.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-naw-just-on-vacation/?utm_term=.f3b9869a9b27
Yeah, you Putinistas will say anything.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-naw-just-on-vacation/?utm_term=.f3b9869a9b27
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You don't know that the rocket launcher was supplied by Russia directly, these weapons were available to both sides ,left overs from the Soviet era.
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Perhaps? In other words you don't know do you, you are quoting articles from American newspapers which deal in fake news.
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ok tell me sources that you use.
The heads of all six US intelligence gathering agencies all confirmed Russian interference. There is no doubt. The only thing in question is whether Tangerine Tosser colluded.
https://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/26/us/2016-presidential-campaign-hacking-fast-facts/index.html
There is also evidence that our own democratic process was interfered with. Vinty is a typical Trumper who labels all facts as fake news. Just like the fat orange liar Trump.
https://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/26/us/2016-presidential-campaign-hacking-fast-facts/index.html
There is also evidence that our own democratic process was interfered with. Vinty is a typical Trumper who labels all facts as fake news. Just like the fat orange liar Trump.
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The same Six intelligence agencies that confirmed Saddam's WMD's,give it a rest mate, do you really believe that Trump is president because the Russians posted anti Clinton comments on face book and Twitter, in your paranoia you are claiming the Russians are interfering in UK elections ,I suppose you believe they were behind the Brexit vote.
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I don't deal in conspiracy theories about Russian subversion, I originally posted that I believe that the BBC is Russophobic, and my sources for that are my eyes and ear, the application of common sense and objectivity when I listen to some the nonsense they broadcast.
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So you must be able to reference them, or were they in your imagination?
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The problem with your approach is cognitive bias and confirmational bias. Sure have a healthy scepticism with reporting and news.
Your eyes and ears are not sources and how can you prove you are objective? If we stick to the facts, we can still have different opinions.
Now as to Russian interference, unless you are closed off to what is being reported there are hard facts and public evidence available. Now you can draw your own conclusions but tell me then who hacked the DNC servers?
I believe the reports that the Ruskies's made a concerted effort to undermine the democratic process in the US - yes.
I also believe the reports that they attempted to do the same here.
It's no big secret.
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