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Very rare round here,any vids on teaching motorists to be courteous to cyclists? More useful.
 
good advice. The problem is, for most who carry with the intention to use it, they keep it concealed until the last moment.
 
Very rare round here,any vids on teaching motorists to be courteous to cyclists? More useful.
And the other way round. Some cyclist seem to think they own the road... nearly knocked one off the other day as he undertook me as I was turning left (and signalling left). Cheeky fu told me off too, well tried to.
 
And the other way round. Some cyclist seem to think they own the road... nearly knocked one off the other day as he undertook me as I was turning left (and signalling left). Cheeky fu told me off too, well tried to.
Very very rare compared to the minute by minute crap from motorists!
 
Very very rare compared to the minute by minute crap from motorists!
I've always been careful of cycles and motorbikes as I used to use both myself, but try driving around London and see what cyclists get up to. Jumping red lights, undertaking, not using cycle lanes, cyclists 2-3 abreast. I regularly drive through Epping Forest which has many cyclists and has a lovely cycle lane and since it was put in years ago, I've yet to see a cyclist use it, preferring instead to cycle in the middle of a 40mph rd. Eh?

As I said, courtesy, consideration and care needs to be both ways.
 
I've always been careful of cycles and motorbikes as I used to use both myself, but try driving around London and see what cyclists get up to. Jumping red lights, undertaking, not using cycle lanes, cyclists 2-3 abreast. I regularly drive through Epping Forest which has many cyclists and has a lovely cycle lane and since it was put in years ago, I've yet to see a cyclist use it, preferring instead to cycle in the middle of a 40mph rd. Eh?

As I said, courtesy, consideration and care needs to be both ways.
Indeed
 
You'd still cop liability if you turned left and took out a cyclist, plus there is no requirement for them to use a cycle lane, ride single file or keep over to the left. Also if they rip new metal coloured go faster stripes in your paint as a result of the near miss, they don't have to stop and exchange details or even carry insurance.

A courteous cyclist might be more considerate.
 
You'd still cop liability if you turned left and took out a cyclist, plus there is no requirement for them to use a cycle lane, ride single file or keep over to the left. Also if they rip new metal coloured go faster stripes in your paint as a result of the near miss, they don't have to stop and exchange details or even carry insurance.

A courteous cyclist might be more considerate.
Really, I would be to blame? I thought cyclists were supposed to undertake when traffic is stationary, not moving -it's common sense too. I did see him in time, and stopped, but I just started to turn and the tosser came flying around the corner from another road and kept going. It happened next to a pub and when the guy started to have a go, looking for a fight, vast majority of the people in the pub garden shouted at him that it was his fault, to learn how to ride, I was signalling etc. Was quite thankful!
 
Most (note the word most) cyclists are dangerous d**kheads especially those that that belong to cycle clubs and a) think they own the roads b) ride 4 or 5 abreast. Then they have the effrontery to complain when they get hurt although an altercation with a bus or a truck is usually enough to stop the complaints. The sooner cyclists are taxed and insured by law the better.
 
You'd still cop liability if you turned left and took out a cyclist, plus there is no requirement for them to use a cycle lane, ride single file or keep over to the left. Also if they rip new metal coloured go faster stripes in your paint as a result of the near miss, they don't have to stop and exchange details or even carry insurance.

A courteous cyclist might be more considerate.
Cyclists are allowed to cycle two abreast! Rule 66 states you should never cycle more than two abreast, and ride in single file on narrow or busy roads. This means cycles are perfectly legal to cycle side by side on most roads in the UK.

Normally cyclists should ride in what's called the secondary position, around 30cm to 1m from the kerb. However, it can often be safest to adopt the primary position, for example, if the road is narrow and it's unsafe for a driver to pass you, or if you need to avoid riding in the 'door zone' past parked cars.

Bicycles, since they are considered “vehicles,” are subject to the same rules as other drivers; they are not always granted the right of way. When turning left at an intersection, you must yield to oncoming traffic

Of course there is also Common sense, but seems in short supply everywhere.

MOD: Please refrain from over emphasising.
 
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Really, I would be to blame?
Yes: McGeer v Macintosh [2017]

No doubt the vast majority of people in the pub are aware of the above ruling. (I'm not saying its morally right).

Cyclists ... should...
None of those are backed by statute. Hence "Should" not "must"

, since they are considered “vehicles,” are subject to the same rules as other drivers;
Not mechanically propelled vehicles which is the term used for the rules in the vast majority of the legislation. hence speed limits, requirement to stop and exchange etc.. don't apply.
 
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