Isn't this sweet

[jasonzyx]

Make up your mind will ya!! EFL and I were called racist by you without saying any racist comments whatsoever. You're rather inconsistent.

My mind is abundantly clear, unchanging and focused.
Because you ascribe to the outdated, old-fashioned, Victorian, superseded ideology that there are a multiplicity of races within the human race, you are fundamentally racist.
That ideology believes that there are one or more superior races within the human race, which is inherently racist.
Anyone who ascribes to that ideology must be inherently racist.
If you wish to ascribe to that ideology, you must also accept that you are racist. You don't need to do anything else, other than propound and promote that ideology.

If you look at BAS's exploration for ridiculing ELFImpudence's idea that different races are created by people procreating, you will understand how ludicrous it is that there could be different races.

 

[EFLImpudence]

It is you who keeps inserting the word 'superior' for your own ends. we have never mentioned it.

Perhaps it is ingrained in your subconsciousness for some reason.

 

[ellal]

The UK is still a pretty tolerant country.

you think this country is terribly divided over politics because you are actively interested in the debates. Many aren't interested at all or have any knowledge of politics.

Sadly this country is going down the nationalism route with increasing speed, and is not alone in that...

Tolerance is relative, but it doesn't hide the fact that the UK is becoming less tolerant as the political climate worsens...

And indeed many 'aren't interested at all or have any knowledge of politics'...

Which is why we are in the mess we now find ourselves in, because a few conmen used that apathy/ignorance to further their own aims and stoke the flames of nationalism/xenophobia...

But in order to do that, there must have been an underlying predilection to such attitudes amongst said apathetic/ignorant members of society!

 

[jasonzyx]

It is you who keeps inserting the word 'superior' for your own ends. we have never mentioned it.

Perhaps it is ingrained in your subconsciousness for some reason.

People who ascribe to the racial essentialist ideology ascribe to the idea that there are more than one race within the human race, and that one or more are superior. Why else would they promote the idea that there are more than one race? It is fundamental to their ideology. If they didn't believe that there are one or more superior races, there would be no point in insisting that there are more than one race.

I will repeat myself again: it has been proven that the dictionary does not use race in the pure, simple narrow concept of the human race being divided into several races. That is proven by the dictionary definition of racism along with the dictionary definition of antisemtisim.
Unless you believe you have proven the dictionary to be wrong.

 

[Notch7]

you are fundamentally racist

error in reasoning old chap

That ideology believes that there are one or more superior races

How do you reach the conclusion that if humans are from different races, that some are superior to others.

another error in reasoning

Anyone who ascribes to that ideology must be inherently racist.

what ideology...the one you made up about one race being superior to another

yet another error in reasoning

If you wish to ascribe to that ideology, you must also accept that you are racist

What ideology -the one you made up?

another error in reasoning.

you aren't very good at this are you

When can you come back and present some facts not made up stuff........

 

[transam]

 

[Notch7]

Sadly this country is going down the nationalism route with increasing speed, and is not alone in that...

I know, members of the Labour party have had to leave due to the unpleasant anti semitic culture

 

[ban-all-sheds]

No, of course not.

So let's see where we are.

You asked "What happened to produce a child of mixed race?"
I suggested procreation between two people who you would consider to be of different races, which you rejected:

Unless you can think of an alternative, I see no reason to consider the rest of your post.

I suggested artificial insemination, and you wont have that, either.

What happened to produce a child of mixed race?

I have no idea.

You won't accept the idea of the conventional way of producing children, not will you accept AI, so I'm not sure what's left.

...and so must you as undoubtedly they exist and you cannot explain how they occur unless you abandon your all-encompassing definition of race.

No, they don't "undoubtedly exist", and it is not my "all-encompassing definition of race".

Given that there are mixed-race children, 50% one and 50% another, which prove my definition of race, what difference does it make what children they produce, be they 75%:25% or any other ratio?

There are only "mixed race children" IF we accept your definition of "race".

But your definition is not the real one - it is a fantasy of yours with absolutely no basis in fact.

You've been asked before, but it will do no harm to ask again, so that you can fail again, and remind everyone again how fact-free your ideas are.

Please provide your definition of "race" and show that it is supported by contemporary science.

There is no reason to consider your other meanderings because you have admitted that there are mixed-race children

Don't be so pathetic, EFLI, misrepresenting people's posts is never a winning tactic. Look at what I actually wrote - there's no admission like that from me:

I imagine that in your world two people of different races procreated.

So let's pursue your logic, and see how far it gets us.

We will assume that there are at least 3 races, and we'll call them A, B & C.

We will assume that an A and a B have a child. Let's say that child is AB mixed.

We will assume that an A and a C have a child. Let's say that child is AC mixed.

We will assume that a B and a C have a child. Let's say that child is BC mixed.

Do you consider AB, AC and BC to be of different races?

What if two ABs have a child, is that still an AB?

What if an A and an AB have a child, and a B and an AB also, and lastly a C and an AB. Are those three children of different races to each other? Are they of different races to their mixed race parent?

In your world, how many races are there?

Please confine yourself to accepted, contemporary science when explaining your logic in each case.

so there must be different races according to my definition.

But your definition is bogus.

They do not occur by procreation by people of the same race who happen to have different nationalities or have different religions.

They do occur by procreation by people of different races who happen to have the same nationality or have the same religion.

Go on then - show us the contemporary scientific justification or acceptance of your theories on race.

 

[transam]

People who ascribe to the racial essentialist ideology ascribe to the idea that there are more than one race within the human race, and that one or more are superior. Why else would they promote the idea that there are more than one race? It is fundamental to their ideology. If they didn't believe that there are one or more superior races, there would be no point in insisting that there are more than one race.

I will repeat myself again: it has been proven that the dictionary does not use race in the pure, simple narrow concept of the human race being divided into several races. That is proven by the dictionary definition of racism along with the dictionary definition of antisemtisim.
Unless you believe you have proven the dictionary to be wrong.

Ball cocks

 

[Notch7]

and that one or more are superior

prove it

 

[sodthisforfun]

Because you ascribe to the outdated, old-fashioned, Victorian, superseded ideology that there are a multiplicity of races within the human race, you are fundamentally racist.

You're lying and you're very offensive.

My mind is abundantly clear, unchanging and focused.

You're believing your own lie.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

As you claim, and have claimed, your concept of antisemitism proves the dictionary definition wrong.
No!The dictionary definition of antisemitism proves you, and your concepts of antisemitism and racism wrong!

 

[jasonzyx]

You're lying and you're very offensive.

When you stop being a racist, I will stop calling you a racist, and then you can stop being offended.

 

[Bodd]

Sure they do, but they tend to remain relevant to the discussion. Why did you introduce the point about whether insulting individuals is acceptable or not? It was irrelevant. We were discussing whether John Bishop's comments were racist or not. Neither of us, nor had anyone else, mentioned it up to that point.

Then your comments appeared to become more and more bizarre:








I have never suggested or implied that it is acceptable for people to insult others because of their appearance.
Why did you imply that I had?

I never implied that it was racist but just as bad

 

[EFLImpudence]

You're off again attributing irrelevent things to what we are saying.

People who ascribe to the racial essentialist ideology ascribe to the idea that there are more than one race within the human race, and that one or more are superior.

Well perhaps we don't subscribe to that theory but just recognise that there are differences which we call races.

Why else would they promote the idea that there are more than one race?

...because there are ???

It is fundamental to their ideology. If they didn't believe that there are one or more superior races, there would be no point in insisting that there are more than one race.

There can be different races without implying superiority. I presume you mean intellectually.

I will repeat myself again: it has been proven that the dictionary does not use race in the pure, simple narrow concept of the human race being divided into several races.

Yes it does so stop repeating it.

That is proven by the dictionary definition of racism along with the dictionary definition of antisemtisim.
Unless you believe you have proven the dictionary to be wrong.

I have proved that the definition of antisemitism is wrong because there are semitic people who are not jews or Israeli and vice versa.



Perhaps you could explain, without a long irrelevant diatribe, what is meant by a child of mixed race if there are no races and if you can what do you call the differences in appearance and physiology between African people and Chinese people.