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Well they wouldn't would they.

That's because the UK has 40 years worth of tying its regulations to the EU.

That is thousands of aligned regulations.
Thousands of companies exporting to Europe.

Trade of goods and services would no longer be frictionless and tariff-free between the U.K. and the 27 remaining countries of the EU. Instead, it would be subject to the WTO-negotiated tariffs -- which act like a tax on goods -- that the EU places on third parties. The bloc accounts for 48% of U.K. goods exports, and the shift could bring costs, paperwork and controls that haven’t existed for decades. Tariffs would differ for various products, but the EU’s average tariff rate is 3%. Here are some examples:



  • Food: The EU’s average most-favored nation tariff rates are 11.1% for agricultural goods, 15.7% for animal products and 35.4% for dairy.
  • Finance: U.K.-based financial companies would lose EU “passporting” rights that allow them to market products and services in any EU country without having to set up a branch there.
  • Automobiles: British carmakers would face a 10% tariff on all car exports to the EU. Those levies could exceed 5.7 billion euros ($6.4 billion) per year and increase the average price of a British car sold in the EU by 3,000 euros per car, according to the British Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders.

I am not saying a no deal Brexit cant be done. But it cannot be achieved without huge disruption.

So a 'no deal' would simply mean straight back to Brussels to secure a deal.
In regards to regulations and 3rd countries isn't the UK already in regulatory alignment with the EU.
On the 30th of October as an EU member the UK will be in regulatory alignment and when the UK leaves on the 31st October those regulations will stil be in place.
So there shouldn't be any problem conforming to EU standards in the short term although this may change as regulations diverge in the long term.
 
In regards to regulations and 3rd countries isn't the UK already in regulatory alignment with the EU.
On the 30th of October as an EU member the UK will be in regulatory alignment and when the UK leaves on the 31st October those regulations will stil be in place.
So there shouldn't be any problem conforming to EU standards in the short term although this may change as regulations diverge in the long term.
Substantial thread drift.Back to the topic.Whatever the UK problems are,,,Corbyn is never ever going to be the answer.
 
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Disagree I think the EU will blink but in a last minute attempt to 'assist the UK from certain doom' you wait. And no it wont be the golden ticket before you start gushing

It depends whether the 'fudge', is enough for Boris to get past the rabid 'no dealers' and little enough that the EU dont think it has compromised their project.

There are 2 problems with the idea the EU will blink:

-Boris has made a huge fuss about guaranteeing Brexit will happen on 31st Oct
But the EU dont even have a new president until 1st Nov
-and the UK parliament only return after confefences in early Oct.

-Boris has set red linds, which make it harder to reach compromise.
-esp Irish border

The EU will not compromise the integrity of the single market or customs union.

They might compromise on free movement
 
You talk with great authority on a subject where you do not know your ass from your t.i.t.
I dont speak with authority.

I am not an expert.

The facts are easily found on the internet. You could easily find them yourself

If a no deal actually happened (it wont), the greatest damage would be to agriculture and industry.

Since you are in the North and want Brexit, I would have though you would have a vested interest in finding out what planning needs to happen to cope with a no deal.
Perhaps you should be out helping your community prepare.

The CBI has published a guide, this is a summary:
https://www.cbi.org.uk/media-centre...for-no-deal-contingency-planning-study-finds/
 
In regards to regulations and 3rd countries isn't the UK already in regulatory alignment with the EU.
On the 30th of October as an EU member the UK will be in regulatory alignment and when the UK leaves on the 31st October those regulations will stil be in place.
So there shouldn't be any problem conforming to EU standards in the short term although this may change as regulations diverge in the long term.

Thats true good thinking.

Unfortunately, that requires a deal. (y)

So this is what happens:

31st Oct 'no deal' gods through, we leave. Brexiteers jump for joy and tell everyone they have won, we are free.

1st Nov: oh damn, we need frictionless trade, we'd better have a chat with Brussels.

And they will say, before we talk about a FTA we needs these sorted:
Financial settlement
Irish border
Citizens rights

So ne deal just means a deal with our current negotiating power removed. (y)

Do you see where Im coming from?
Ground hog day.
 
In which case, they can 'do one' can't they.
Indeed they can.

Then the UK will have 3rd country status -damaging

We can go to WTO -damaging.

Would you prefer damage to the UK just for the satisfaction of saying 'you can do one'.
 
Food: The EU’s average most-favored nation tariff rates are 11.1% for agricultural goods, 15.7% for animal products and 35.4% for dairy.

What tariffs will be placed on food imports from the 'commonwealth' countries, for the avoidance of doubt, that's the countries we used to import food from pre eu, coincidentally. that's also when food was cheaper because we weren't subsidising French farmers.

Finance: U.K.-based financial companies would lose EU “passporting” rights that allow them to market products and services in any EU country without having to set up a branch there.

As discussed before, how difficult is it to set up a branch in Europe, and let's not forget that half of the debt / finance raised in Europe is done in London.

Automobiles: British carmakers would face a 10% tariff on all car exports to the EU. Those levies could exceed 5.7 billion euros ($6.4 billion) per year and increase the average price of a British car sold in the EU by 3,000 euros per car, according to the British Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders.

And vice versa, and how do the prices of Korean cars and Japanese cars compare to German cars?
 
Out of interest, why not?

Obvious, we dont even have all the factors of production to make all the goods and services we require currently.

What tariffs will be placed on food imports from the 'commonwealth' countries, for the avoidance of doubt, that's the countries we used to import food from pre eu, coincidentally. that's also when food was cheaper because we weren't subsidising French farmers.



As discussed before, how difficult is it to set up a branch in Europe, and let's not forget that half of the debt / finance raised in Europe is done in London.



And vice versa, and how do the prices of Korean cars and Japanese cars compare to German cars?

Access to the EU single aviation market requires airline companies to have their headquarters and majority shareholdings in the EU so airlines would have to relocate.

WTO barely touches services or regulation and standards.
 
Obvious, we dont even have all the factors of production to make all the goods and services we require currently.



Access to the EU single aviation market requires airline companies to have their headquarters and majority shareholdings in the EU so airlines would have to relocate.

WTO barely touches services or regulation and standards.
Why would that be? Qantas,emirates,etc etc manage perfectly well,not based in EU?
 
Obvious, we dont even have all the factors of production to make all the goods and services we require currently.



Access to the EU single aviation market requires airline companies to have their headquarters and majority shareholdings in the EU so airlines would have to relocate.

WTO barely touches services or regulation and standards.


Rubbish, and furthermore, there are no tariffs, duty, taxes etc on aircraft or aircraft parts, anywhere in the world. WTO rules I believe.
 
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