Pretty much every boiler manufacturer incentivises installers to sell their brand....with some it's a straightforward cash payment per boiler, others points to be exchanged, some a"free" boiler with x sold etc.
New boiler required...but which one?!
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I guess that means a customer cant assume to get impartial advice from an installer.
Which makes it tricky because getting in touch with a few installers for information and a quote is probably the only way for a punter to get advice from a pro in the industry.
I suppose an installer wouldnt recommend a bad boiler as it might mean the cash back he gets is less than the aggravation......
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This is exactly what I'm starting to wonder, as the three installers I've had quotes from all had a very clear preference for one particular brand. Now I'm not saying they're definitely partial, and they may genuinely think Brand A is better then Brand B, but it is hard to know for sure.
The one who recommended the Baxi reckoned the equivalent Vaillant would be ~£250 more...is that a normal kind of price hike for Vaillant?
In terms of output, I've had one recommend 28kW, one recommend 36kW and the other said it was up to me. In a three bed semi with one bathroom (and certain residents with a penchant for very hot water as fast as it's physically possible!), would the difference between a 28 and a 36 be massively noticeable? (I realise this is slightly off the original topic so can to start a new thread if necessary)
I work for a manufacturer, it's mostly common sense and observation but you're right, it takes time.
I could say use one of xyz we sell or that I've fitted if I'm an installer or have had fitted as a customer but what recommendation is a few lines from someone you don't know on the internet who doesn't know who you're going to get to fit it, where it's going, the condition of the current system or what your expectations are.
If you have a question about a technical issue I will try to answer.
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Then consider fitting a ( large ) hot water cylinder and thus avoid the limitations on hot water flow rates that come with a combi.
When considering a boilers heat output there are two values to take into account, the high value needed to have an adequate supply of "instant" hot water and the low value required to keep the house warm. Can the boiler operate efficently at both these levels ?.
Luxury and efficiency do not go hand in hand.
Choose one or the other.
What is it they say? ... "if you need to ask the price, you can't afford it!"
Choose one or the other.
What is it they say? ... "if you need to ask the price, you can't afford it!"
They can if one takes the time and makes the effort to design a system that fits the requirements.
No. "something" always has to "give".
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My dad fitted Worcester Bosch, the faults were not really down to boiler condensate pipe freezing and filter blocked, however when I came to improve control I found it would only work with Worcester Bosch Wave thermostat, it did not have OpenTherm. As it if you need OpenTherm not so sure, Hive seem to have found a way around connection to ebus, but you want it to work in your house and I was caught out with dads house, my house worked so well I had not even considered the need to have individual control in each room until I moved back into his house to look after my mother.
If it goes wrong you need it repairing, where I live now where is it seems only one local plumber, so it would be daft not to fit what he sells, where I lived before there were loads so it really did not matter.
If it goes wrong you need it repairing, where I live now where is it seems only one local plumber, so it would be daft not to fit what he sells, where I lived before there were loads so it really did not matter.
That something could be the cost of installing the system.
A good plumber/ heating engineer should, given the manuals, be able to service and/or repair most domestic boilers.
A simple boiler such as a heat only boiler where the pump valves etc are not crammed into the boiler casing shoud present no problem to a competent person. A boiler where all the system is crammed into the boiler casing is a different matter and may require that the plumber has attended a course on how to service / repair that make and model.
Of course it could be but, in reality, it is the "willingness" of those who can "afford" luxury to invest in efficiency, that "gives"!
In "my" experience, customer's with deep pockets will only entertain efficiency so far, and certainly not at the expense of luxury.
It's one of those "inversely proportionate to" situations.
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Jeezzz..where do you live??? What do you class as "local"?
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Says the man who probably never had the front off a boiler
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I must try that 1 Bernie..the next breakdown I attend....."give me an hour Mrs whilst i read the manual""".....its only £60 quid onto your bill while i educate myself
Yes I have had the front of a boiler, more than one in fact ( legally ) . And I have been that hideous customer who looks over the technician's shoulder
A really good heating engineer would be able to use common sense to understand a boiler seen for the first time and only need the manual when the design lacks common sense.
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