Boris has won over the EU.....

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On the news last night the EU officials seemed ecstatic slaping him on the back all smlies. .........I find it a suprising turn of events.

What accounts for this seemingly complete reversal of attitude ?
Could it possibly be the alternative is see as a reality ? No deal could happen ?

And we don't want that !
 
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The EU are sick and tired of Brexit, its not that high on the EU agenda

They are keen for the Boris surrender deal to go through
 
They are patronising him, they got what they wanted is it any wonder they are ecstatic.
 
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Its a terrible deal for all these reasons:
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The only good Brexit deal is cancelling Brexit for all these reasons:
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Bojo did well, an impossible negotiation challenge, with both arms tied behind his back by the handcuff act. Hopefully he will be rewarded after a GE
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2019/10/16/political-trackers-14-15-oct-update

I thought No Deal was better than a Bad deal.

Break up of the Union is the cost.
 
They are patronising him, they got what they wanted is it any wonder they are ecstatic.

So what you think of Bojo now and the RW Tories?

Into the welcoming arms of the Republic of Ireland. Whitehall never cared about NI it was just a nuisance and now no more.
 
Bojo did well, an impossible negotiation challenge, with both arms tied behind his back by the handcuff act.
..And they said it couldn't be done - the EU WILL NOT renegotiate! :rolleyes: I tell you what, I bet they'll renegotiate on that if it doesn't go through parliament. He's now got that fish up to the surface and just has to reel it in. Gently does it. :D
 
I don't think its reasonable for the DUP to expect a veto. I think its reasonable for those elected to power in a democracy to have the right to choose. Otherwise you could have 1 MP vetoing the wishes of the rest. Thats not democratic. If the people of NI don't want to extend the deal then they can vote in MPs who will make it a manifesto pledge to scrap it. Its not that hard to see how this can work.

If Scotland leaves the UK it will be because JC allows them to as part of a power sharing deal to become PM.
 
Its a terrible deal for all these reasons:
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The only good Brexit deal is cancelling Brexit for all these reasons:
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Bojo did well, an impossible negotiation challenge, with both arms tied behind his back by the handcuff act. Hopefully he will be rewarded after a GE
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2019/10/16/political-trackers-14-15-oct-update

Perhaps you think the Boris surrender deal is a good one.

You believe the de facto annexation of Ireland a price worth paying for a Tory win at a GE.
 
Perhaps you think the Boris surrender deal is a good one.

You believe the de facto annexation of Ireland a price worth paying for a Tory win at a GE.

It is for all swivel eyed Tory voters - Britain First.
 
I don't think its reasonable for the DUP to expect a veto. I think its reasonable for those elected to power in a democracy to have the right to choose. Otherwise you could have 1 MP vetoing the wishes of the rest. Thats not democratic. If the people of NI don't want to extend the deal then they can vote in MPs who will make it a manifesto pledge to scrap it. Its not that hard to see how this can work.

If Scotland leaves the UK it will be because JC allows them to as part of a power sharing deal to become PM.
Minority veto is part and parcel of the so called Good Friday agreement, Nationalists demanded it in return for an IRA cease-fire, this is why politics in N.I. are so dysfunctional at the moment.
Sinn Fein used their veto to bring down Stormont and cause a crisis.
Now that there is a danger that Unionists could use the same tactic to protect their interests people accuse them of being unreasonable.
 
I understand that. The issues you raise make the point I was making very well.
 
Thats not democratic. If the people of NI don't want to extend the deal then they can vote in MPs who will make it a manifesto pledge to scrap it. Its not that hard to see how this ca

The argument surrounding consent seems academic to me.

If RoI stay in the EU, Northern Ireland only have the choice of staying in the SM and CU or they have a hard border......which as weve discovered is as good as impossible.

I can see NI doing well out of having single market access and it could be boom time there.
Would UK businesses move there perhaps....
 
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