Future change in the EU [?]

[IT Minion]

Notch has correctly identified the author is a left-ist politician - and yet her anti-brexit article sits pefectly framed in the Spectator.

Former left wing and quite... unusual in her views.

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/art...ld-be-free-watch-child-porn-and-jihadi-videos

 

[Brigadier]

No, we all knew the Spectator is a right-wing, anti-EU rag.

What is the "inanimate" equivalent of an ad hominem attack?

Shoot the message, not the messenger.

The Spectator IS a right-wing, anti-EU rag. And all the better for it. It's a welcome antidote to the rest of tripe out there. Be that right-wing trash or the apologists on the left. Notch has correctly identified the author is a left-ist politician - and yet her anti-brexit article sits pefectly framed in the Spectator. Perhaps Brexit isn't the right-wing construct you so dearly want it restricted to.

Nozzle

Even a stuck clock is correct, twice a day.

 

[JohnD]

What is the "inanimate" equivalent of an ad hominem attack?

Inanimate objects do not have opinions.

Journalists, editors, editorial boards and proprietors do.

Have you ever seen an editorial calling for fairer taxes on billionaires and tax-dodging multinationals?

Have you ever seen one in a Murdoch rag?

 

[Brigadier]

No, we all knew the Spectator is a right-wing, anti-EU rag.

What is the "inanimate" equivalent of an ad hominem attack?

Shoot the message, not the messenger.

Inanimate objects do not have opinions.

Journalists, editors and editorial boards do.

Semantics, when you collectively describe them as

...... the Spectator.... .

Shoot the message, not the messenger.

 

[Vinty]

The Mail - right-wing, anti-EU rag
The Express - right-wing, anti-EU rag
The Telegraph - right-wing, anti-EU rag
The Sun - right-wing, anti-EU rag
Sky news - right-wing, anti-EU rag

Jeremy Corbyn anti EU left wing politician.

 

[noseall]

It's a demonstration of two political principles:

No, it's an Op-Ed from a biased rag and your speech is even less rousing.

 

[Brigadier]

No, it's an Op-Ed from a biased rag and your speech is even less rousing.

I'm flattered you thought it was a speech.
Perhaps I missed my calling.

 

[Notch7]

Enlighten me as to what you think "the point" is then, please.

Those right wing papers are allowed to get away with spreading misinformation, propaganda, lies

At the moment the huge wave of lies simply drowns out the truth.
And it starts with the government.
Eg Brendon Lewis saying there will be no border between UK NI

It is a cynical ploy of bilionaire owners to mainpulate the public.

 

[Vinty]

Those right wing papers are allowed to get away with spreading misinformation, propaganda, lies

At the moment the huge wave of lies simply drowns out the truth.
And it starts with the government.
Eg Brendon Lewis saying there will be no border between UK NI

It is a cynical ploy of bilionaire owners to mainpulate the public.

Does anyone really believe what any politician says anymore.
Just have to wait and see what they do rather than what they say

 

[JohnD]

Does anyone really believe what any politician says anymore.

Not if his name is Boris.

 

[Notch7]

Does anyone really believe what any politician says anymore

Plenty of people voted for Boris Johnson lies and he continues spewing it out on a daily basis.

So yes people do believe the lies.

 

[durhamplumber]

Because, for me anyway, there are a number of conflicting reports , viewpoints, and interpretations for most aspects of the world we now live in. It is up to the individual to choose between them.

All very simplistic in Nirvana..But in this day and age of fakenews,religious teaching from day 1..etc etc....not easy at all...People are sheep and very influenced by media