A whiter shade of Black

[festive]

I guess it's a long debate.
You have only highlighted one of the economic explanations, there are others.
e.g.
Economic explanation

C. Black slaves were cheaper than white labor​

1. theories of racial inferiority were later rationalizations to
bolster the black slavery system
Cultural explanations

C. Europeans were culturally opposed to enslaving other Europeans
1. defined themselves as non-slaves
2. even criminals not condemned to slavery
3. Europeans might kill each other, but not enslave them​

Ideological explanations

B. Four preconditions for European enslavement of blacks
1. Support in European religious and historical traditions for institutions of slavery
2. Historical Arab trade in African slaves
3. Muslim religious racism transmitted to Europe ("curse of Ham")
4. Negative connotations of color black​

​

It doesnt matter we stopped using blacks whites etc as slaves long ago.
Germany stopped killing Jews long ago.. etc.

Fking move on.
The irony being even the Mayor of Bristol is black possibly not proportionally representing but shows we are not the racist nation made out here.
Racism comes in all forms remember collectively we stop it. All of my early experiences of racism were black being racist against 'whiter', asian or white. Things my parents never told me to look out for..learnt it myself

 

[festive]

Priti Patel seems to have a severe case of the Stockholm syndrome.

Vinty you're being a dick. Racism comes in all forms show me where its just blacks that suffer racism, that was her point. In her position of professionalism unfortunately she can't be seen to be favouring any race just like any colour race cult religion or whatever. It doesn't mean she's against her own or others honestly. Or do you expect the likes of Khan't to favour Muslims over Christians for example? No he has to be seen to be impartial that's not the same as racist

Lets draw up a cartoon of a black politician and make racial and sexual comments about him her, see how many seconds before we have another riot.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Slavery is illegal in UK..dopy...

Did anyone suggest it wasn't?
I think durhamplumber is is suffering from a comprehension deficit.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

It doesnt matter we stopped using blacks whites etc as slaves long ago.

Well I never knew that!

The discussion was an intelligent discussion mainly between Notch7 and I, about which came first, the chicken or the egg.
I think it was above your paygrade. It was certainly above your cognitive abilities.

 

[Bodd]

Chuck this lot into the mix won't help much. ...... But hey that's anarchy...

https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2020...gans-and-far-right-plan-london-demonstration/

 

[festive]

Well I never knew that!

The discussion was an intelligent discussion mainly between Notch7 and I, about which came first, the chicken or the egg.
I think it was above your paygrade. It was certainly above your cognitive abilities.

Oh Bobby keep wig on love you're right, out of my league you are, you low down cherry picking Dazzle in a Frazzle, lets have a hug x

 

[ellal]

Slave trading was legal when that guy was doing it!!

Ah, so condone slavery because it was 'legal' at the time then?
How sick is that!

What about being gay being a crime until a few decades ago?
Would you prefer that gays weren't pardoned in retrospect?

And as to tearing down statues of racists.
If legal/moral approaches don't achieve a just result then so be it!

Do you believe that the 'illegal actions' of the suffragettes were wrong?

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Chuck this lot into the mix won't help much. ...... But hey that's anarchy...

https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2020...gans-and-far-right-plan-london-demonstration/

I thought there were only small pockets of racism, not that bad?
I'm sure someone said racism in the UK is not that bad.

I accept there is racism but this country is no where near a bad as some black or white people say.

 

[SirGalahad]

Problem is Priti point about racism was that as she has experienced it herself she could legitimately talk about it but then that implies people who have not experienced racism - your opinion has less weight.

Windrush victims say Hi!

 

[ellal]

Problem is Priti point about racism was that as she has experienced it herself she could legitimately talk about it but then that implies people who have not experienced racism - your opinion has less weight.

Windrush victims say Hi!

Yep, priti nasty loves the 'hostile environment'...

She wouldn't even be here if it had applied to her parents!

Which destroys her racism argument completely!

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Yep, priti nasty loves the 'hostile environment'...

She wouldn't even be here if it had applied to her parents!

Which destroys her racism argument completely!

Sorry ellal, you are confusing the UK's immigration policy with racism.
Granted racism might influence an immigration policy, but racism is in no way a causation of having a policy.
A country can and should have an immigration policy.
It should not have racism.
I have no doubt that Priti Patel has indeed experienced racism.
I suspect that there are many, many immigrants that have benefited from a lax policy in the past, and have then experienced racism, and now want to reduce immigration.

 

[Charlie George]

times change old bean

in case you hadnt noticed, slavery is not really popular these days

Slavery today is worse than at anytime in history, what are you doing about that?, Mauritania in Africa is the worst,and last country to ban slavery.
Slavery is vile but you can't erase historic relics because of it, Pyramids/Churches/Mosques/Temples etc were built and sustained using slavery,should we bulldoze the lot,and if not why not?

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Slavery today is worse than at anytime in history, what are you doing about that?, Mauritania in Africa is the worst,and last country to ban slavery.
Slavery is vile but you can't erase historic relics because of it, Pyramids/Churches/Mosques/Temples etc were built and sustained using slavery,should we bulldoze the lot,and if not why not?

The issue is about racism, about police brutality because of racism. It is not about slavery!
If you wish to start a discussion about abolishing slavery, I'm sure it's possible.

 

[Bodd]

The issue is about racism, about police brutality because of racism. It is not about slavery!
If you wish to start a discussion about abolishing slavery, I'm sure it's possible.

Fnck me you've changed your story..... Does Notch write all your material. ..........

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Fnck me you've changed your story..... .

If you think that, you're struggling to understand the comments.